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its still just too expensive. If was going to pay 250 dollars why not just buy a playstation3 instead? the psv needs to be 150wifi 200 3g model.... whoever is in charge of Sonys Market prices has always overpriced their stuff which leads them to fail, that person should be fired. thumb.gif
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If that's true, then RIP good games as well. There are some alright casual games on mobile phones, but nothing serious, length, in-depth, or with controls that aren't semi-terrible.
But with a controller for iOS and Android devices and a booming market we will hopefully see better and better games as time goes on.

Developers will almost never developer for controllers that don't come with a device, because only a very small percentage of customers will have them.
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After playing a few emulated games on my phone, I decided never to play again on a touch screen. It is incrdibly annoying to play when the touch controls are not that responsive. It works fine for games like Angry Birds but for games that require more precise controls it fails miserably.
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Developers will almost never developer for controllers that don't come with a device, because only a very small percentage of customers will have them.
If Apple is able to come to market with an official controller and promote apps which support it, then maybe developers will. It's not as if it would be a lot of effort to add support for a controller.
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Understand this is a portable gaming system, it will sell once the games for it are good enough and plenty enough. There is no blockbuster title on the vita, aside from uncharted. You'd have to be one hell of a fan to buy a new console JUST for that, or you are an impulse buyer. Sony needs to bring in some AAA games, not just the big names but actually deliver.
People have tablets, smartphones for all the other stuff. Sony is struggling enough selling it as a gaming machine, not like their phones/tablets sell particularly well.

I would look at Gravity Rush to be more a AAA title than Uncharted. I have plenty of Vita games to keep me busy. The psp was a skip for me because I couldn't stand having only one d pad. Now that I have a vita I've been going back through and playing all the games that I've missed as well as the vita games that are slowly being released.

Personal, I don't feel enough risk were taken with Uncharted. The game had a lot potential but didn't end up being as good as I hoped it would be.

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Nobody is going to carry around a Vita or 3DS because their iPhones and Samsung Galaxy's can achieve the same amount of entertainment. It's not about graphics when it comes to portable gaming, it's portability - i.e. people don't want to carry around more than 1 large rectangular device.

I'm in the samsung Galaxy camp and yes I do game a bit on my phone and here is the result:

1) It kills my battery life leaving less phone time which is what it is used for.

2) Great for casual games but doesn't have a lot of higher end content that I actually find enjoyable. At least not when you compared it to the Vita which completely blows my phone out of the water in the game department.

3) Phone calls and saves. Phone calls can close your game if the android system chooses not to keep them open. Not all big developers have built in save features that saves your games every few minutes so all is not lost.

To me, phone games need fast saves and needs to be able to be enjoyed in quick sessions. With the Vita I'm looking for more of a challenge that might take some more time than I would want on my phone.
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Developers will almost never developer for controllers that don't come with a device, because only a very small percentage of customers will have them.
If Apple is able to come to market with an official controller and promote apps which support it, then maybe developers will. It's not as if it would be a lot of effort to add support for a controller.

Designing a game around controllers completely changes how you handle UI. How would you drag a list, for example? Do they have to use a cursor and hold down a button while over the list and then move an analog stick to 'flick' the list? Definitely not. Normally with games that use controllers you have only one UI element that has focus, and you use buttons to switch to other menus, and whatever menu is in focus will move according to the analog stick. Both types of UI are simple, but hooking up a controller to a UI meant for touch screens is not simple. In fact, the difference between a mouse UI and a controller UI is the sole reason why LEGO Universe did not ship with Xbox 360 controller support. We actually had the entire game working great with the controller, in fact it played better than with a mouse and keyboard, except that controlling UI with it was terrible and the work required to make all 100+ UI elements in the game work great with a mouse was going to be 1-2 months of work for a programmer.
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All of my friends and I would buy the vita instantly if it got hacked so we can run some emulators and stuff on it. Imo, psp started selling well only when the homebrew community got really big.
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Designing a game around controllers completely changes how you handle UI. How would you drag a list, for example? Do they have to use a cursor and hold down a button while over the list and then move an analog stick to 'flick' the list? Definitely not. Normally with games that use controllers you have only one UI element that has focus, and you use buttons to switch to other menus, and whatever menu is in focus will move according to the analog stick. Both types of UI are simple, but hooking up a controller to a UI meant for touch screens is not simple. In fact, the difference between a mouse UI and a controller UI is the sole reason why LEGO Universe did not ship with Xbox 360 controller support. We actually had the entire game working great with the controller, in fact it played better than with a mouse and keyboard, except that controlling UI with it was terrible and the work required to make all 100+ UI elements in the game work great with a mouse was going to be 1-2 months of work for a programmer.
I think the game should be designed to support both touch screen controls and a game controller. I really can't imagine how it could be difficult -- you should note I'm talking about mobile games here like Infinity Blade 2, ShadowGun, Modern Combat 3, Tiki Towers 2, Real Racing 2, etc.

To answer your question about a list. I would do it how I've seen it done traditionally -- after focus is given to that element (such as a TableView) via the left Analog Stick , you then hold the right Analog Stick down to scroll through the items and use a button to select an item.

That aside, if Apple did release a game controller I'd expect them to introduce APIs to make it quick and easy for developers to support it.
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All of my friends and I would buy the vita instantly if it got hacked so we can run some emulators and stuff on it. Imo, psp started selling well only when the homebrew community got really big.

Vita does have a homebrew community. It just doesn't have the ability to play backups which is great because what you say helped the psp probably did a lot more harm than good.

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