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Hi guys!

So having lost one too many expensive mouse to microswitch wear I'm looking for something cheaper this time, around $40 - $60. After days of search I have come up with a list but can't make a pick. I want a wired mouse with at the very least two extra programmable buttons, preferably more. (Though not something like a Naga or M90 where all the buttons are crammed into one cluster.) I play on medium sensitivity, use a fingertip grip and play mainly FPS and MMO games. Other things I like are optical, heavy, rubberized, solid build. But those are just preferences, the only deal breaker is I don't want a Razer or Gigabyte. Here is my list so far:

CM Spawn - Concerned about size, I use fingertip grip and have long fingers. Also read multiple reports of wiggly top buttons and unresolved software issues under Win 7 64.

G400 - My fallback plan. Don't like the shape of the wheel - prefer flat wide tactile ones like on Razer mice - and side buttons nor the overall look but I know what I am getting.

MS Comfort 6000 - Seems very light in review videos, only two extra buttons and not even sure those are programmable. Nice look and shape though, and rather inexpensive.

CM Inferno / Sharkoon Fireglider / Tt Black Element - Regarding their features these all seem fine but the brands are not well known for their mice so I don't really know what I am getting into. What scattered reviews I managed to found reported poor build quality (Fireglider and Black Element specifically).

Roccat Kova - At this point I am not even sure why it's on my list, the only thing it has over the G400 is its looks. Read reports of poor build quality.

Since I am ordering online, would love if you guys could address the above concerns to help me make an informed choice. Of course the list is open for any other suggestions as well. Thanks!
Edited by nailertn - 8/22/12 at 2:45am
post #2 of 31
If you have some soldering skills you can replace the microswitches your self. It's not super hard.

The g400 is a great mouse, as is the razer deathadder. Those would be my two top suggestions for you.
post #3 of 31
What grip do you use? Your list has a wide range of styles.

Sent from a newdel from canoodle.
post #4 of 31
From your list I'd recommend the G400, great mouse all around.
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Unless you can mod your G400 to use a different cord, stay away from it. The cable it comes with is very cheap.
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Originally Posted by tahayassen View Post

The cord breaks every 3 months.
http://forums.logitech.com/t5/G-series-Gaming-Mice/Logitech-g400-USB-problem/td-p/642462

Someone asked for my recommendations and I gave them this post:
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Afaik, all my recommendations below have no acceleration (until you reach very high speeds), no prediction, no jittering, and no z-axis issue.

Please note: the mice listed in each paragraph all have the same sensor.

The CM Storm Spawn (beware) is pretty good if you will never use VoIP. The Logitech G400 is great if you can mod your mouse and replace the USB cable (because the USB cable is very cheap and breaks after ~3 months). The Razer DeathAdder (make sure you update your firmware if you use this mouse or else you face problems), Roccat Savu, Zowie EC eVo, and Zowie AM all are great mice.

If you like laser mice, the Razer Lachesis, the Razer Imperator, and the R.A.T. M.M.O. 7 all use a decent sensor. These ones MIGHT have a z-axis issue, so you'll need to do further research.

Alternatively, you can pretty much use any Microsoft 400 DPI mice. The problem is that you will be limited to 400 DPI.

Edited by tahayassen - 8/23/12 at 6:47am
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Source: http://www.overclock.net/t/854100/mouse-sensor-technology-guide-v2-0-being-updated-28-july-2012

Roccat Kova has prediction.

Source: http://www.esreality.com/index.php?a=post&id=1872116#pid1872116

MS Comfort 6000 has prediction and the sensor is very meh. Also locked at 125 Hz.

Source: http://www.esreality.com/index.php?a=post&id=2024663

CM Inferno has a z-axis issue.



The Sharkoon Fireglider uses a laser sensor, and there seems to no be perfect laser sensor, so I would avoid. The Tt Black Element is unknown, so 90% sure the sensors isn't good.
Edited by tahayassen - 8/22/12 at 5:14am
post #7 of 31
^If you want to take angle snapping as an issue, sure.

The comfort 6000 has a pretty good sensor for a non gaming oriented mouse. Also the polling can be bumped, just not with common methods. Data path is larger than 8bit so you won't really have a benefit regardless. (avg speed is 72-90 IPS) I wouldn't say this mouse has angle snapping.
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^If you want to take angle snapping as an issue, sure.
The comfort 6000 has a pretty good sensor for a non gaming oriented mouse. Also the polling can be bumped, just not with common methods. Data path is larger than 8bit so you won't really have a benefit regardless. (avg speed is 72-90 IPS) I wouldn't say this mouse has angle snapping.

http://www.esreality.com/files/placeimages/2010/75455-l.jpg
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Unless you can mod your G400 to use a different cord, stay away from it. The cable it comes with is very cheap.

Not for me, mine is about 6 months old now and still fine. No problem with the cable. But I'm using a mouse bungee that I build myself, so maybe that's keeping stress off the cable.
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post #10 of 31
Does the Spawn's supposed 12 bit U.S.B. data format cause any concern, or is it negligible versus a 16 bit one?

The G400 has a 16 bit data format, but no way to upgrade its firmware.
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