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Originally Posted by Cantii View Post

This is false. You won't be able to stick an Xbox game into your computer and magically have it read it (HD-DVD in a DVD/Blu-ray drive does not work). So these games have actually been re-written for Windows 8 and put into the Xbox App Store. So what 47 Knucklehead is saying is 100% fact. Why do you think it's impossible?
Source: http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2012/09/what-xbox-games-on-windows-actually-means/
I'm not even going to waste my time explaining it to someone so clueless, try pulling a source from Microsoft like I have before making assumptions.
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It is called an emulator, they have kind of been around a while. It would take nothing for Microsoft to allow Windows 8 to emulate the XBox and allow for games to be played on it. Much like how Sony changed the PS3 from using hardware that was capable of running PS2 games, to software emulation, to nothing at all, for backwards compatibility...
I doubt this is going to be done, as it is a bit late in the game for them to announce the feature. That, however, still doesn't change the fact that it wouldn't be all that hard for them to do, should they have chose to do so.
So maybe you don't actually have the "common sense" you are so heavily touting.
Its called an emulator, I have written several of them. If you wish to know more about how one works, feel free to PM me and I will show you. It is very simple and not as hard as you think it is.
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Originally Posted by 47 Knucklehead View Post

You can't put a game you already own for the XBox console (or the XBox 360) into the drive of your PC running Windows 8 and play it. MAYBE you will be able to do with the upcoming XBox 720, but that hasn't been confirmed.
Here is the complete list of "XBox" games that Windows 8 will be able to play.
See the complete list of titles below.
1. 4 Elements II Special Edition
2. A World of Keflings
3. Adera: Episode 1
4. Adera: Episode 2
5. Adera: Episode 3
6. Angry Birds
7. Angry Birds Space
8. Big Buck Hunter Pro
9. BlazBlue Calamity Trigger
10. Collateral Damage
11. Crash Course GO
12. Cut the Rope
13. Disney Fairies
14. Dragon’s Lair
15. Field & Stream Fishing
16. Fruit Ninja
17. Gravity Guy
18. Gunstringer: Dead Man Running
19. Hydro Thunder Hurricane
20. IloMilo
21. iStunt 2
22. Jetpack Joyride
23. Kinectimals Unleashed
24. Microsoft Mahjong
25. Microsoft Minesweeper
26. Microsoft Solitaire Collection
27. Monster Island
28. PAC-MAN Championship Edition DX
29. Pinball FX 2
30. Reckless Racing Ultimate
31. Rocket Riot 3D
32. Shark Dash
33. Shuffle Party
34. Skulls of the Shogun
35. Taptiles
36. Team Crossword
37. The Harvest HD
38. Toy Soldiers Cold War
39. Wordament
40. Zombies!!!
Big freaking whoop!
http://www.gamespot.com/news/microsoft-reveals-list-of-xbox-live-games-coming-to-windows-8-6394531
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For more details on playing "XBox" games on Windows 8, you should look here ...
[Ars] - What "Xbox Games on Windows" actually means
You really are clueless about Windows 8 and its features. Please do your research next time before making assumptions. Don't expect all game developers to go back to 2 year old games and update them to work on Windows 8.

http://support.xbox.com/en-US/apps/windows-8/windows-8-faq
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Originally Posted by zooterboy View Post

Xbox 360 games are on DVDs. It's not some magical format that can't be read by anything else.

My bad, thought 360 games were on HD DVDs, guess they're just regular dual layer DVDs. I stand corrected.

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I'm not even going to waste my time explaining it to someone so clueless, try pulling a source from Microsoft like I have before making assumptions.
Its called an emulator, I have written several of them. If you wish to know more about how one works, feel free to PM me and I will show you. It is very simple and not as hard as you think it is.

Go ahead, waste your breath, I'm sure it'd be amusing.
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Originally Posted by Warmonger View Post

You really are clueless about Windows 8 and its features. Please do your research next time before making assumptions. Don't expect all game developers to go back to 2 year old games and update them to work on Windows 8.
http://support.xbox.com/en-US/apps/windows-8/windows-8-faq

Your link explains absolutely nothing other than you can play music and video. The whole point is that you won't be able to put your Xbox 360 game into your DVD drive and play it through Windows 8, but you are correct in that they will essentially be run inside of an emulator for those that won't have their code overhauled.
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Originally Posted by Warmonger View Post

You really are clueless about Windows 8 and its features. Please do your research next time before making assumptions. Don't expect all game developers to go back to 2 year old games and update them to work on Windows 8.
http://support.xbox.com/en-US/apps/windows-8/windows-8-faq

Last time I checked, Gears of War 3 isn't a "2 year old game", it is 1 year old.

Please do a little bit of research before you go around insulting people AGAIN ... especially after a moderator came in here and cleaned up YOUR mess.


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And for the record, GoW3 is ALREADY written for Windows (as well as XBox), it would be NOTHING for Microsoft to allow people who have the console version of the game to have it verified on their XBox system, then able to download it FOR FREE on their PC ... but that would make too much sense and not make Microsoft any money. So what they will do is further their confusion of the term "XBox in Windows 8" and try to pry even more money out of peoples wallets, while causing more and more confusion.
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Originally Posted by 47 Knucklehead View Post

Last time I checked, Gears of War 3 isn't a "2 year old game", it is 1 year old.
Please do a little bit of research before you go around insulting people AGAIN ... especially after a moderator came in here and cleaned up YOUR mess.
[Edit]
And for the record, GoW3 is ALREADY written for Windows (as well as XBox), it would be NOTHING for Microsoft to allow people who have the console version of the game to have it verified on their XBox system, then able to download it FOR FREE on their PC ... but that would make too much sense and not make Microsoft any money. So what they will do is further their confusion of the term "XBox in Windows 8" and try to pry even more money out of peoples wallets, while causing more and more confusion.
Who ever said anything about GoW3? Are you really that lost in this thread right now that you have to make shart up? I suggest you get your facts straight before posting here again, like in every other thread. A mod never came in here to clean up a mess of mine, I don't get why you think so but whatever floats your boat. Like I said do your research before coming back.
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All depends on the game/program.
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/windows-8-consumer-preview-vs-windows-7-benchmarked_p2/19927
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It should be noted from the legend above, longer is not always better. For a lot of us, performance depends on knowing what to do with the hardware we do have. thumb.gif
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Originally Posted by PostalTwinkie View Post

What?
You just said I was wrong, then repeated what I said.....
Nothing I said about the PS3 was incorrect.
The original PS3 had the Playstation 2 "Emotion Engine CPU" on-board, allowing it to play PS2 games near flawlessly. Then due to cost Sony had to pull this feature, instead opting to keep the GPU from the PS2 and using software to emulate the Emotion Engine CPU. Because software isn't perfect it lost some compatibility with games from the PS2. This all taking place somewhere around 2007, and then about a year later, 2008, Sony stopped putting in the "Graphics Synthesizer" GPU, and pulling the emulation feature, completely killing compatibility with PS2 games.
Hardware > Software (Technically Software and Hardware with the GPU) > Nothing.

You know, the way your original post read sounded like Sony was able to maintain backwards compatibility while removing PS2 hardware. Since it seemed like the point you were trying to make was that backwards compatibility and emulation is easy to do...
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Im due for a reformat, is windows 8 worth a try, People keep saying they have noticed smoothing framerates in games.
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Im due for a reformat, is windows 8 worth a try, People keep saying they have noticed smoothing framerates in games.

Most of the gains I saw were apparently from doing a clean install. Windows 8 doesn't look much worse, and I'd venture to say it has the potential to be much better. I'd say it's worth a try. I took the plunge and don't regret it.
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Back on Windows 7, 8 crashes too often for me. mad.gif
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