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Any of these mobos?
Asrock
Gigabyte
Asus
So basically why would someone go x79 instead of z77? Sandy vs Ivy.
Does the x79 have more upgradibility? If im building a kick ass machine, it should last me 3-4 years or more.

The most important deciding factor is what will the primary purpose of your computer be for. You said gaming, getting an x79 platform, while yes it will be more powerful than z77 you're not gonna be utilizing it to the full potential if is only games ur gonna be using it for. The z77 will offer a better price/performance ratio if the intended purpose is primarily for games. But it's ur cash, so if you afford it (x79) by all means go for it. IMO either choice will last you a couple years for sure.
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The most important deciding factor is what will the primary purpose of your computer be for. You said gaming, getting an x79 platform, while yes it will be more powerful than z77 you're not gonna be utilizing it to the full potential if is only games ur gonna be using it for. The z77 will offer a better price/performance ratio if the intended purpose is primarily for games. But it's ur cash, so if you afford it (x79) by all means go for it. IMO either choice will last you a couple years for sure.

gaming, bluray, dvd burning, normal cpu stuff.

I think the z77 platform, might be the cheaper way to go IMHO. cheaper mobo, etc.. 3570k 3770k.

Not really sure what Ill be missing with the different z77 models. They all cost so much different.



thanks in alot to all you guys.
 
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I will of course say go with the ASUS Sabertooth X79 because:

1. Offers the best warranty of all boards (5 years), so you're sure to get your money worth in the long haul, unless you like building every few years.
2. It is the coolest running of all boards without the need to run a water loop. With thermal radar software, you can easily monitor temps and adjust settings.
3. Highly recommended for first time builders, with the least amount of DOAs or POST issues. Just read the reviews Highest ratings of all boards purchased.
4. Military class components, which speak for themselves. If its good enough for the military, its good enough for me.
5. Decent color combinations of black and brown and tan, where other color combos such as blue and red and yellow go well together with this board.
6. Much better UEFI BIOS with ASUS boards
post #24 of 61
Go with a Z77 platform

X79 is useless if you only game.

3570k + ASUS P8Z77-V or Gigabyte Z77X-UD3H or ASRock Z77 Extreme4

8GB RAM

128GB Samsung 830 SSD

GTX 680 (670)

SeaSonic X650 80+Gold Power Supply. (MORE THAN ENOUGH to SLI or Crossfire in the future.) Okan, please check your facts before saying "futureproof" this and "futureproof" that
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Go with a Z77 platform
X79 is useless if you only game.
3570k + ASUS P8Z77-V or Gigabyte Z77X-UD3H or ASRock Z77 Extreme4
8GB RAM
128GB Samsung 830 SSD
GTX 680 (670)
SeaSonic X650 80+Gold Power Supply. (MORE THAN ENOUGH to SLI or Crossfire in the future.) Okan, please check your facts before saying "futureproof" this and "futureproof" that
Would you say that Ivy runs hotter than Sany?

Im looking at some specs now on the z77 boards.
 
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Would you say that Ivy runs hotter than Sany?
Im looking at some specs now on the z77 boards.

Yes, Ivy does run hotter than Sandy, but it is also ~10% faster
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Ok. I have been looking at the z77 boards tonight. Here are some canidates. If you guys like a board that isnt on my list, please by all means let me know. I have been comparing them but its hard to really know what i need or dont need. Most of these are going to have very similar features anyway.

Asus Maximus V Formula
Asus z77 Sabertooth
Asus p8z77 v deluxe
Asrock extreme 9 z77
Asrock formula OC
EVGA z77 ftw

Im liking the maximus V formula so far. Its roughly the same price as deluxe board but better looking. Not sure about the evga nor the asrock boards.
 
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I went over all your post and nowhere you mentioned your budget and features needed from motherboard.

LGA2011 is better even for gaming on the long run (and I mean LONG run like 4+ years from now).

Otherwise, LGA1155 is enough.

If all you need is to run 1 or 2 GPUs, and good/great overclock, you are looking for $130-230 motherboard. Everything else is overkill.

Boards worth considering in that price segment:
ASrock z77 Extreme4 (budget)
Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H (budget)
Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H
ASRock Extreme6
Asus P8Z77-V
Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H
Asus P8Z77-V Pro

Or you can go with Sabertooth Z77 if you care about thermal armor.
Or Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UP5 for the best VRM and thunderbolt.

If you are looking for motherboard that can support up to 4 GPUs, you are looking for $250 + price segment.

Boards worth considering:
Gigabyte G1 Sniper 3
Maximus V Extreme
ASRock Z77 Extreme9
EVGA Z77 FTW

All these boards except the ones that market budget should not limit overclock on air/water in any way. So it comes down to what features you really need.

If you go by looks, that's gonna be a whole different situation.
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Would you say that Ivy runs hotter than Sany?
Im looking at some specs now on the z77 boards.

I've been very happy with my 3570k temps. Once you push past 4.5ghz the load temps in synthetic stress testing can get toasty, but I've found that stress tests are a fair bit hotter than normal use. At 4.4-4.5ghz with all power saving features on, my cpu idles around 30-32c and rarely goes over 65c when gaming, and my cooler, while decent, isn't exactly one of the big dogs.

Anandtech recently did a review of several mobos that seem to be in the range you're looking at (they gave the nod to the Sniper, incidentally). I think you'd be happy with any of the mobos in your list of candidates, but I recommend giving the Sniper 3 strong consideration. One feature that sets it apart is the onboard sound. I have the mAtx version, and it's the first onboard sound that's impressed me. Plus the Gigabyte's build quality has this solid-ness that is something to behold. When I took it out of the box I kinda wanted to lick it.
    
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I went over all your post and nowhere you mentioned your budget and features needed from motherboard.
LGA2011 is better even for gaming on the long run (and I mean LONG run like 4+ years from now).
Otherwise, LGA1155 is enough.
If all you need is to run 1 or 2 GPUs, and good/great overclock, you are looking for $130-230 motherboard. Everything else is overkill.
Boards worth considering in that price segment:
ASrock z77 Extreme4 (budget)
Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H (budget)
Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H
ASRock Extreme6
Asus P8Z77-V
Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H
Asus P8Z77-V Pro
Or you can go with Sabertooth Z77 if you care about thermal armor.
Or Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UP5 for the best VRM and thunderbolt.
If you are looking for motherboard that can support up to 4 GPUs, you are looking for $250 + price segment.
Boards worth considering:
Gigabyte G1 Sniper 3
Maximus V Extreme
ASRock Z77 Extreme9
EVGA Z77 FTW
All these boards except the ones that market budget should not limit overclock on air/water in any way. So it comes down to what features you really need.
If you go by looks, that's gonna be a whole different situation.

Thanks. Im trying to keep the whole build less than $3000. Thats not to say I wont shed a tear if I get it in at $2500 either. Im still throwing around the idea of having either two gtx680s or just one. Thats at least $500 savings there by going one.

Tell you the truth, I honestly dont know what features Ill need in a board. I can tell you that I burn dvds, game (bf3), bluray to HDD, SLI, 8-16gb Ram. Most of the boards Ive looked at have alot of the same features, just different pricing. . I honestly have never overclocked, but am open to it. I dont plan on using watercooling anytime soon, but maybe. Air cooling for now. Probably go with the H100 or a Phanteks. The look of the board is somewhat important to me but not the dealbreaker. I havent actually looked at gigabyte too hard, mainly because Asus or Asrock seem to pop up on alot of benchmarks and reviews. I like the z77 sabertooth, but for close to the same price, the Maximus V Formula seems to look better and have more features. The sabertooth does have the 5 year warranty though which is appealing. Tom explained the Maximus V Extreme was definite overkill and maybe a waste of money for someone like me. I read a review on the evga ftw board, but the layout was funky and some bios bugs. I could honestly be looking at too expensive of a board for what I need.

Is there a reason that one would go with the x79 over the z77 platform? Im looking at two cpus. 3770k and 3820. They are very close in price ($40) and seem very close in performance. Im just stumped on going with one over the other. Would it be for upgrades etc.. down the line? Once I build this machine, I plan on it lasting me the next 3 years or more. I dont plan on upgrading the mobo or cpu in that time unless absolutely needed.

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I've been very happy with my 3570k temps. Once you push past 4.5ghz the load temps in synthetic stress testing can get toasty, but I've found that stress tests are a fair bit hotter than normal use. At 4.4-4.5ghz with all power saving features on, my cpu idles around 30-32c and rarely goes over 65c when gaming, and my cooler, while decent, isn't exactly one of the big dogs.
Anandtech recently did a review of several mobos that seem to be in the range you're looking at (they gave the nod to the Sniper, incidentally). I think you'd be happy with any of the mobos in your list of candidates, but I recommend giving the Sniper 3 strong consideration. One feature that sets it apart is the onboard sound. I have the mAtx version, and it's the first onboard sound that's impressed me. Plus the Gigabyte's build quality has this solid-ness that is something to behold. When I took it out of the box I kinda wanted to lick it.

thanks. The gigabyte seems like a nice board. I dont know much about many mobo manufacturers anymore since I havent built a rig in probably 10+ years. Gigabyte was one of the tops then. The sniper 3 does come in very close in price to the sabertooth z77 and the maximus formula. In your opinion, does the sniper best these two other boards, and if so, how.


Not to get off track, but I thought this was kinda of funny. I see alot of guys doing custom colors and sleeving in their pcs. I have been making my own home theater stuff for years now. Check this out:Custom Cable Vid
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