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post #11 of 186
8/24/12 at 2:28pm
Impressive speeds but yea those access times are pretty bad. Still a good drive but youd be much better off w/ a ssd for your OS and this for w/e else.

Would be curious how much you could cut down the access times w 2x of these shortstroked tho.

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8/25/12 at 3:26am
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Edit: So this is essentially Western Digital's Fine-Tune Hitachi Desktar 7K1000.D drive with the same capacities available and double the cache...I wonder how the Seagate 1TB per platter drives compete.
It's going to be their mainstream part, I suspect. They are taking advantage of dense platters to reduce parts costs, increase reliability, and increase profit margins. They'll probably start pushing this model hard - mass producing them will again raise margins, so that they can reduce the MSRP. We may finally see drive prices dropping close to what they used to be.

Cache doesn't do much for a drive - although an advertised stat, pretty much every drive has 'enough' for the platter count/density and ECC type. Doubling it won't automatically provide a huge speed boost. It's all the unadvertised stuff that does. (Platter Density, Firmware, Seeking Style (Quiet/Aggressive), etc.)
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I don't see WD marketing 1TB/platter anywhere on the product page so I assumed that they never decided to upgrade to 1TB platters yet. biggrin.gif
They have never advertised platter densities. I couldn't say why - it seems like a good advertising point?
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I noticed Kramy stated it's not the best candidate for an OS drive, but hopefully it's good enough for me. The only thing I'm worried about is the slower average access times compared to my current setup. Maybe I'll break down and buy an SSD for my OS drive one of these days.
It's not the best choice because of how performance degrades when full. If your drive is mostly empty, don't worry about it. If you get an SSD one day, you have even less to worry about. The high sequential speeds mean it should perform very well for a lot of tasks. smile.gif
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8/25/12 at 1:06pm
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Edit: So this is essentially Western Digital's Fine-Tune Hitachi Desktar 7K1000.D drive with the same capacities available and double the cache...I wonder how the Seagate 1TB per platter drives compete.
It's going to be their mainstream part, I suspect. They are taking advantage of dense platters to reduce parts costs, increase reliability, and increase profit margins. They'll probably start pushing this model hard - mass producing them will again raise margins, so that they can reduce the MSRP. We may finally see drive prices dropping close to what they used to be.

Cache doesn't do much for a drive - although an advertised stat, pretty much every drive has 'enough' for the platter count/density and ECC type. Doubling it won't automatically provide a huge speed boost. It's all the unadvertised stuff that does. (Platter Density, Firmware, Seeking Style (Quiet/Aggressive), etc.)
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I don't see WD marketing 1TB/platter anywhere on the product page so I assumed that they never decided to upgrade to 1TB platters yet. biggrin.gif
They have never advertised platter densities. I couldn't say why - it seems like a good advertising point?

It's rather impressive for a mainstream part. Can't wait to see what a 1TB per platter Caviar Black is going to be like. I'd be happy to consider WD again now that the prices are going to be near or of the same as Seagate's and Hitachi's 1TB per platter drives.

It's only a few MB compared to how much we're going to have in our hard drive. I doubt it would do anything.

It does seem like something they should advertise. It would also make it a lot easier to tell if they are using 1TB platters in their drives.
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8/28/12 at 1:32pm
Why is there such a big deal on only 1 platter drive?
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8/28/12 at 2:24pm
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Why is there such a big deal on only 1 platter drive?
Lower chance of failure?

Oh, and being single platter implies the platter is at least 1TB in size (currently the densest available) - that means very high sequential performance.
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9/11/12 at 1:57pm
Update: I think WD is starting to possibly introduce 1TB-platter Caviar Black drives. I don't know if it is but it might be.

http://wdc.com/en/products/products.aspx?id=760

Look at the WD5003AZEX. It's a possibility because it has similar weight to the other 1TB-platter drives. Short stroked drive?

I don't really know where to look to see if it is or not. I just checked drive size and weight (lower weight = less platters if they use the same weight platters. Component weight will probably vary slightly).
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9/13/12 at 10:11pm
I always consult this guy's site when looking for platter densities: http://rml527.blogspot.com/2010/10/hdd-platter-database-western-digital-35_3899.html
He list the WD5003AZEX as being 1TB / platter with one read/write head.

I probably should have waited for the 1TB single-platter Black drive. Sometimes this WD10EZEX feels seriously quick, like how it gets to the Windows log in screen in 15 seconds from POST and creating thumbnails quickly for videos in a folder I haven't been to in a while. Other times it takes 10-20 seconds just to open a video. I think it might have to do with it doing other things in the background. Is it possible NCQ is causing this? Or maybe this drive just can't do more than one thing at a time.
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9/13/12 at 11:11pm
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Update: I think WD is starting to possibly introduce 1TB-platter Caviar Black drives. I don't know if it is but it might be.

http://wdc.com/en/products/products.aspx?id=760

Look at the WD5003AZEX. It's a possibility because it has similar weight to the other 1TB-platter drives. Short stroked drive?
Interesting.

It's doubtful it's short-stroked, but it may be a single-platter single-side drive, which in theory should have exceptional reliability. People deploying builds for businesses might be interested in them, as reliability is often a bigger concern than space.

I have not been able to locate any HDTune benchmarks for them yet, but the product spec sheets indicate sequential speeds that could only be from 1TB platters.

If the access times are good, it might be a winner of a drive. 500GB drives are dropping back into the $50 range. If the WD5003AZEX reaches that price point, it'd be reasonably good value.
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I probably should have waited for the 1TB single-platter Black drive. Sometimes this WD10EZEX feels seriously quick, like how it gets to the Windows log in screen in 15 seconds from POST and creating thumbnails quickly for videos in a folder I haven't been to in a while. Other times it takes 10-20 seconds just to open a video. I think it might have to do with it doing other things in the background. Is it possible NCQ is causing this? Or maybe this drive just can't do more than one thing at a time.
It could be your media player. Some take forever to open (Windows Media Player being one of them) while others open really quick. (VLC comes to mind) I'd look into that before blaming the drive. I've seen WMP open fast the first time it launched, then open super slow the second time - it's against all logic at times. Right now I'm using Media Player Classic HC, but I have it (and codecs) installed to SSD. Videos on my WD Green open quite quickly. thumb.gif
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9/14/12 at 6:08am
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Hi, I have a question:

Now, I use WD Caviar Black 640GB SATA2 aka WD6401AALS. I have 35GB partition for Win7 x64, and rest of the disk for software (programs and games), so no data.
I saw Your test with WD10EZEX and like it, so my question is: Which 1TB singleplatter SATA3 drive to buy to replace Blacky 640GB for same use (win7 + software - and no data):



WD10EZEX
Hitachi 7K1000.D
Seagate (that new 1TB model)

...or should I wait WD Blacky 1TB Singleplatter wink.gif ?


I have SATA3 support on my Asus P8Z77-V board.

In Croatia, prices are more or less the same, few Euro is difference.

SSD is out of the question.
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9/14/12 at 6:11pm
I have been looking for a hard drive for general use, and while I intend to set up a RAID array using RE4 1TB drives in the future, I am finally seeing a drive that stands out, the WD Caviar Black 1TB with 1TB platter, as soon as it's released.
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i7 3930K @ 4.8Ghz Asus Rampage 4 Extreme EVGA GTX670 FTW 2GB  16GB G.Skill Ripjaws-Z @ DDR3-2248 9-10-9-26 1T 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung 830 256GB SSD WD10EZEX 1TB HDD WD10EALX 1TB HDD Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 1TB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingCooling
WD3200AAKS 320GB HDD LG/Hitachi Slim DVD-R/W Custom MB-Backside VRM-sinks (Copper) DD "Fill-Port Res" + Fill-Port Fitting (Red) 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
2x MCP35X + Heatsinks/80x15mm Fan XSPC EX420 Alphacool NeXXos UT60 240 6x Bgears Blasters 140mm 1800rpm Fans 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
4x Koolance 120x25mm 2600rpm Fans Comp/Rotary Fittings (BP/XSPC/Monsoon) Primoflex Pro LRT - White (1/2x3/4) 3x NZXT RF-FX140LB 1-2krpm 98.3CFM Case Fans 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
2x Corsair SP120-PE Case Fans Heatkiller GTX680 "Hole Edition" Block + Backplate XSPC Single-Bay Res (Single 5.25 bay) EK Multioption Res X2 - Advanced 150 
OSMonitorMonitorMonitor
Windows 7 Professional 64bit  Dell P2210Hb 21.5" 1920x1080p Viewsonic VA2012WB 20.1" LCD 1680x1050 Dell S2320L 23" 1920x1080p LED-Backlit 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Mechanical (Browns) NZXT HALE90 850W NZXT Switch 810 (White) R.A.T.3 + MX510 
Mouse PadAudioAudioOther
My Desk GRADO RS1i Headphones Grado PS1000 Headphones Bitfenix Hydra Pro Fan Controller 5ch 30W/ch 
OtherOtherOtherOther
Bitfenix Alchemy Individually-Sleeved Extension... NZXT Individually-Sleeved Front Panel Wires (Bl... Phobya Sleeved 1x3pin-to-4x3pin Fan Splitter Sleeved Wires w Paracord myself (no Heatshrink) 
OtherOther
Custom Front and Top Panels w HexxMesh *In Prog... Working on Custom Pedestal Prototype 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX-51 @2.69Ghz Asus SK8V  ATI X800XT PE 256MB GDDR3  1GB Corsair XMS @ DDR464 2-2-2-4 (XMS3200RE - R... 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Western Digital Caviar SE WD1200JB 120GB 7200rp... 2x Western Digital Caviar SE 80GB SATA1.5 WD800... 3x Samsung Spingpoint NP08 80GB ATA133 8MB Cache 2x Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 160GB 7200rpm 8MB C... 
Optical DriveOptical DriveCoolingCooling
Plextor DVD Burner  Lite-ON DVD-ReWriter Thermaltake Silent Tower Plus with 2x 120x38mm ... 5x Thermaltake 90mm 2500rpm/49cfm Case Fans 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
4x Thermaltake 120mm 1800rpm/58cfm Case Fans Windows XP Professional  2x 22" Viewsonic LCD 1680x1050 Monitors Old Compaq MECH Keyboard !! 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Thermaltake Toughpower 560W PSU Modified Thermaltake Xaser V Limited Logitech M510 Grado SR325 Mahogany Audiophile Headphones  
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core2Duo E8600 Asus Stryker LGA775 HD5870 8GB Crucial DDR2-1066 5-5-5-10 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
2x Seagate 7200.9 320GB x2 Seagate 7200.7 160GB 1x WD Caviar SE16 160GB (OS) x2 Maxtor DiamondMax+ 200GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOptical DriveCooling
3x WD Caviar SE16 80GB LG/Hitachi Slim DVD-R/W LG Blu-Ray Burner 3x Scythe Slipstream 1900rpm 120x25mm Fans 
CoolingCoolingCoolingOS
2x Delta 120x38mm PWM Fans (2.2-4.8krpm) 2x Delta 92x38mm PWM Fans Misc Assortment of 80/92/120/140 fans Windows 7 Pro x64 
MonitorMonitorMonitorPower
Dell 22" 1680x1050 LG 55" LED-LCD 120hz Television Epson DLP Projector (up to 1920x1200) Enermax 750W PSU 
CaseAudioAudioAudio
Antec SOHO Case (Modified for better cooling) Creative Sound Blaster Audigy Platinum Pioneer VSX-D819S 6.2CH DD/DTS Receiver 2x Pioneer Class-D Amplifiers 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
2x Cerwin Vega VE-12 3-Way Tower Speakers (FR/FL) 2x RTR Series V Model 20 4-Way Tower Speakers (... 2x JBL SoundStage High-Dispersion 3-Way Bookshe... 2x JBL Professional-Series Subwoofers 12"+15" 
AudioOtherOtherOther
MonoPrice 12AWG Copper-Stranded Speaker Cables ... Netgear N900 Wireless Card with 3x Detachable A... 3x Netgear 5-port Managed Switches Hauppage TV Capture Card 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 3930K @ 4.8Ghz Asus Rampage 4 Extreme EVGA GTX670 FTW 2GB  16GB G.Skill Ripjaws-Z @ DDR3-2248 9-10-9-26 1T 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung 830 256GB SSD WD10EZEX 1TB HDD WD10EALX 1TB HDD Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 1TB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingCooling
WD3200AAKS 320GB HDD LG/Hitachi Slim DVD-R/W Custom MB-Backside VRM-sinks (Copper) DD "Fill-Port Res" + Fill-Port Fitting (Red) 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
2x MCP35X + Heatsinks/80x15mm Fan XSPC EX420 Alphacool NeXXos UT60 240 6x Bgears Blasters 140mm 1800rpm Fans 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
4x Koolance 120x25mm 2600rpm Fans Comp/Rotary Fittings (BP/XSPC/Monsoon) Primoflex Pro LRT - White (1/2x3/4) 3x NZXT RF-FX140LB 1-2krpm 98.3CFM Case Fans 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
2x Corsair SP120-PE Case Fans Heatkiller GTX680 "Hole Edition" Block + Backplate XSPC Single-Bay Res (Single 5.25 bay) EK Multioption Res X2 - Advanced 150 
OSMonitorMonitorMonitor
Windows 7 Professional 64bit  Dell P2210Hb 21.5" 1920x1080p Viewsonic VA2012WB 20.1" LCD 1680x1050 Dell S2320L 23" 1920x1080p LED-Backlit 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Mechanical (Browns) NZXT HALE90 850W NZXT Switch 810 (White) R.A.T.3 + MX510 
Mouse PadAudioAudioOther
My Desk GRADO RS1i Headphones Grado PS1000 Headphones Bitfenix Hydra Pro Fan Controller 5ch 30W/ch 
OtherOtherOtherOther
Bitfenix Alchemy Individually-Sleeved Extension... NZXT Individually-Sleeved Front Panel Wires (Bl... Phobya Sleeved 1x3pin-to-4x3pin Fan Splitter Sleeved Wires w Paracord myself (no Heatshrink) 
OtherOther
Custom Front and Top Panels w HexxMesh *In Prog... Working on Custom Pedestal Prototype 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX-51 @2.69Ghz Asus SK8V  ATI X800XT PE 256MB GDDR3  1GB Corsair XMS @ DDR464 2-2-2-4 (XMS3200RE - R... 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Western Digital Caviar SE WD1200JB 120GB 7200rp... 2x Western Digital Caviar SE 80GB SATA1.5 WD800... 3x Samsung Spingpoint NP08 80GB ATA133 8MB Cache 2x Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 160GB 7200rpm 8MB C... 
Optical DriveOptical DriveCoolingCooling
Plextor DVD Burner  Lite-ON DVD-ReWriter Thermaltake Silent Tower Plus with 2x 120x38mm ... 5x Thermaltake 90mm 2500rpm/49cfm Case Fans 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
4x Thermaltake 120mm 1800rpm/58cfm Case Fans Windows XP Professional  2x 22" Viewsonic LCD 1680x1050 Monitors Old Compaq MECH Keyboard !! 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Thermaltake Toughpower 560W PSU Modified Thermaltake Xaser V Limited Logitech M510 Grado SR325 Mahogany Audiophile Headphones  
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core2Duo E8600 Asus Stryker LGA775 HD5870 8GB Crucial DDR2-1066 5-5-5-10 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
2x Seagate 7200.9 320GB x2 Seagate 7200.7 160GB 1x WD Caviar SE16 160GB (OS) x2 Maxtor DiamondMax+ 200GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOptical DriveCooling
3x WD Caviar SE16 80GB LG/Hitachi Slim DVD-R/W LG Blu-Ray Burner 3x Scythe Slipstream 1900rpm 120x25mm Fans 
CoolingCoolingCoolingOS
2x Delta 120x38mm PWM Fans (2.2-4.8krpm) 2x Delta 92x38mm PWM Fans Misc Assortment of 80/92/120/140 fans Windows 7 Pro x64 
MonitorMonitorMonitorPower
Dell 22" 1680x1050 LG 55" LED-LCD 120hz Television Epson DLP Projector (up to 1920x1200) Enermax 750W PSU 
CaseAudioAudioAudio
Antec SOHO Case (Modified for better cooling) Creative Sound Blaster Audigy Platinum Pioneer VSX-D819S 6.2CH DD/DTS Receiver 2x Pioneer Class-D Amplifiers 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
2x Cerwin Vega VE-12 3-Way Tower Speakers (FR/FL) 2x RTR Series V Model 20 4-Way Tower Speakers (... 2x JBL SoundStage High-Dispersion 3-Way Bookshe... 2x JBL Professional-Series Subwoofers 12"+15" 
AudioOtherOtherOther
MonoPrice 12AWG Copper-Stranded Speaker Cables ... Netgear N900 Wireless Card with 3x Detachable A... 3x Netgear 5-port Managed Switches Hauppage TV Capture Card 
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