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Originally Posted by CorsairGeorge View Post

I remember the requirement was 60mm thick rads with push-pull, so I'm pretty sure 110mm was the requirement. It might have grown due to other size limitations (optical drive height or ID height), and if you remove the top mesh, you can stack fans and rads on the outside pretty easily, so I'm fairly certain that people will be building ridiculous watercooling systems with Monstas in it one way or another.

Well, to be honest, 110mm will be good enough for 99.99% of people out there, and even a good 80% or more of the water cooling community. That will cover all bases except for the Monsta, which is a pretty unique radiator. There are a multitude of 60mm radiators, and as far as I know, Alphacool is the only one who has done an 86mm thick radiator. The 110mm will get you what is pretty standard for "over the top" radiators in "push/pull" mode ... an XSPC RX series. Other companies also make 60mm, so stopping at 110mm wouldn't be a bad thing at all. Sure it's 1mm shy of being able to put a Monsta in, but then again, depending on the motherboard, it might very will fit in without any modification, and since it's only 1mm, there are a whole host of options to be able to get it in there (fan shaving, 900D lid rollover grinding, etc).

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Originally Posted by CorsairGeorge View Post

See, the thing is, we could play this game all day, Why not add a few more mm for a Monsta rad in push pull? And while we're att it, why not make it work with 38mm fans in push pull? And then we might as well make it compatible with 420mm monsta rads in case they did that. And what if somebody wants 140mm monsta rads? Then what if somebody creates a 90mm thick rad? or a 100mm thick rad?

You see where I'm going - at some point, you have to freeze the specs and actually put this thing into production, otherwise you've just built a refrigerator-sized PC case that has radio controlled wheels so you can drive it around with your iPhone. Basically a Dalek.

I remember the requirement was 60mm thick rads with push-pull, so I'm pretty sure 110mm was the requirement. It might have grown due to other size limitations (optical drive height or ID height), and if you remove the top mesh, you can stack fans and rads on the outside pretty easily, so I'm fairly certain that people will be building ridiculous watercooling systems with Monstas in it one way or another.

Thanks for that. One product can't satisfy all. Compromises have to be made for a product to make it onto the shelves.

Instead of asking Corsair to do everything out of the box, look at the case a figure out how you can make it better.
I'm sure we will figure out certain things the George didn't think of or thought was possible. Get your dremel etc. and get to work men.

And what is 1m? Seriously. Shorter ram or mobo heatsinks solves any additional clearance issues.
I'm starting to doubt the experience levels here.
Edited by WorldExclusive - 1/13/13 at 3:00pm
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And what is 1m? Seriously. Shorter ram or mobo heatsinks solves any additional clearance issues.

I agree, 1mm shouldn't be a major issue (ie 111mm of space), since there is only one radiator maker out today that makes an 86mm radiator. The 110mm issue is a bit more of a concern for me, as a number of companies make 60mm radiators.

Not to mention, as George pointed out, you can't plan for what someone MIGHT eventually come out with down the road (as far as radiator thickness), you can only plan for what is ALREADY out.

But 1mm isn't anything that a good case modder can't overcome. Heck, I did it with my Switch 810 case when I mounted an RX360 up top in "push/pull". The case wasn't designed to do that, but with my handy dandy air grinder and some spray paint, by God I got one up there just fine ... and that was after needing 2mm of space. biggrin.gif
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But 1mm isn't anything that a good case modder can't overcome. Heck, I did it with my Switch 810 case when I mounted an RX360 up top in "push/pull". The case wasn't designed to do that, but with my handy dandy air grinder and some spray paint, by God I got one up there just fine ... and that was after needing 2mm of space. biggrin.gif

Now we're talking.

I'm heading to Home Depot now to pick up a hole saw.
Going to get some cable management rockin' in this Cosmos case.
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2x 420 rads are already an overkill even with just pull OR push lol. Just turn your A/C higher or look at something that cools more than water. If not just buy a CaseLabs or other similar cases. Problem solved.
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2x 420 rads are already an overkill even with just pull OR push lol.

Try overclocking three 7950s and tell me that again. wink.gif
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Originally Posted by CorsairGeorge View Post

See, the thing is, we could play this game all day, Why not add a few more mm for a Monsta rad in push pull? And while we're att it, why not make it work with 38mm fans in push pull? And then we might as well make it compatible with 420mm monsta rads in case they did that. And what if somebody wants 140mm monsta rads? Then what if somebody creates a 90mm thick rad? or a 100mm thick rad?

You see where I'm going - at some point, you have to freeze the specs and actually put this thing into production, otherwise you've just built a refrigerator-sized PC case that has radio controlled wheels so you can drive it around with your iPhone. Basically a Dalek.

I remember the requirement was 60mm thick rads with push-pull, so I'm pretty sure 110mm was the requirement. It might have grown due to other size limitations (optical drive height or ID height), and if you remove the top mesh, you can stack fans and rads on the outside pretty easily, so I'm fairly certain that people will be building ridiculous watercooling systems with Monstas in it one way or another.

Totally agree with what you said, you hit the nail on the head when you said 60mm rads in push pull was the requirement. Glad that atleast you set that as a requirement, and as a happy switch owner, I wish they might have thought about it too.

A case is like a canvas, there is nothing stopping us from being creative. And I dont think its wrong to talk about the standard features as well.

I can relate to getting a product out on time and not just making changes. Again please dont think of my comments as anything negative as the 900D so far has everything a water-cooler might ask for.

But I do like the idea of being able to drive around my case with my iPhone...
Edited by jassilamba - 1/13/13 at 3:36pm
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The 100mm thick rad obsession continues.

This case is perfect as is and can fit enough rads to cool anything cough! cough! 2 480's so lets just appreciate it as is.
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The 100mm thick rad obsession continues.

This case is perfect as is and can fit enough rads to cool anything cough! cough! 2 480's so lets just appreciate it as is.

If it can fit a 60mm in push pull that's all it needs. Anything more and you're just being ridiculous.
    
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Try overclocking three 7950s and tell me that again. wink.gif

I ran 2x 6970s heavily overclocked and overvolted with a gulftown on 2x 240s so yes 2x 420s would be plenty for your 3 7950s
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