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Well you can always go something like a Mountain Mods...http://www.mountainmods.com/computer-cases-c-21.html or Lian-li, or custom case (wow would so do that iff I had the tech know-how!)...ditto desk-case!

But frankly for a few hundred bucks, the 900d provides a lot of convenience...albeit frustration (not being able to install htpx/ssi-eeb AND the last hdd case in the bottom...not to mention standoff-problems with EEB mobos)...

For my money, it is still the sexiest, largest case out there barring some exotic custom cases...remember mountain mods and lian-li and ors quickly double in price! Not to mention not too intuitive hdd layout etc...

There are no doubt a few improvement areas for the 900d, but at the same time (my first build!) I've managed to cram a huge ssi-eeb board with 2 cpu's, a huge ps, and no less than 4 ssd's and 13 hdds!, not to mention 2 h80i's, 2 noctua fans, in addition to the stock fans, and a raid controller in there!

My main whinge would it should be bigger to allow full size PS (such as my ax1200) as well as the 5th hdd cage on the bottom...and that the stock fans in the front are TOO friggin' noisy...! It only had to be around a few cm bigger after all....! With their own PS!

I still think a lot of the solutions are way ahead of the competition...and now that my stupid corsair link actually works (drama +++) is a pretty good albeit not quite silent workstation. Yes definitely I found quality control problems on my build as well....but then it's this or triple the money....overall pretty happy with the case (BUT NOT CORSAIR CUSTOMER SERVICE! THEY SUCK BA!!S!!! #¤%&"#&mad.gif)...

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Well you can always go something like a Mountain Mods...http://www.mountainmods.com/computer-cases-c-21.html or Lian-li, or custom case (wow would so do that iff I had the tech know-how!)...ditto desk-case!

But frankly for a few hundred bucks, the 900d provides a lot of convenience...albeit frustration (not being able to install htpx/ssi-eeb AND the last hdd case in the bottom...not to mention standoff-problems with EEB mobos)...

For my money, it is still the sexiest, largest case out there barring some exotic custom cases...remember mountain mods and lian-li and ors quickly double in price! Not to mention not too intuitive hdd layout etc...

There are no doubt a few improvement areas for the 900d, but at the same time (my first build!) I've managed to cram a huge ssi-eeb board with 2 cpu's, a huge ps, and no less than 4 ssd's and 13 hdds!, not to mention 2 h80i's, 2 noctua fans, in addition to the stock fans, and a raid controller in there!

My main whinge would it should be bigger to allow full size PS (such as my ax1200) as well as the 5th hdd cage on the bottom...and that the stock fans in the front are TOO friggin' noisy...! It only had to be around a few cm bigger after all....! With their own PS!

I still think a lot of the solutions are way ahead of the competition...and now that my stupid corsair link actually works (drama +++) is a pretty good albeit not quite silent workstation. Yes definitely I found quality control problems on my build as well....but then it's this or triple the money....overall pretty happy with the case (BUT NOT CORSAIR CUSTOMER SERVICE! THEY SUCK BA!!S!!! #¤%&"#&mad.gif)...

wait, you didn't quote anyone, therefore I don't know if this if for me or not, but if it this.

As I already stated I wanted to go for a desk mod. -> more space on the desk itself for triple screen, cause the 900d would be in the way for me and there's no way I would hide this beast under it ......

and yeah, Mountain Mods, Lian Li or whatever else. I don't care. I won't buy something finished, this thing I want to do should be suited for my special needs and preferences. Therefore it's going to be a desk mod thumb.gif
    
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Dude, that's what I would do once you decide on how to do it (and if you have the skills, which I don't! unless it's a really primitive ghetto-mod!, go for it!). Looking forward to your build!

Happy and happy! with the 900d, it mostly just saved me time...but always more satisfying to diy something rocking. I think next time I will have to attempt! what you're trying, but have to build up some diy skillz first. I would have said also that case-labs make rocking cases, but at the end of the day (how friggin' hard? can it be to build your own case`)....

Dude, keep us updated with a build-log, and good luck! A build can't be that hard, but making it sexy and all, requires some real talent. But ya know you never know until you try....was all up for building a 'helmer' rendering farm myself at one point! Respect and then some for giving it a go!

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Ok there are a couple! of things you need to think about tho! Cooling and airflow (negative and positive airpressure) as well as grounding, ditto lengths of cables from PS to components. I think one good thing about modern case design is that they think about this for you (maybe not perfectly, but you it's sort of like lego..yaaay!!)...makes it all a bit easier...and they're getting easier when it comes to standardized parts. (dude iff you need a proper tap for your mobo, I spent a day wandering around bergen to get the right firggin tap!! "#¤%%#!! for my mobo standoffs! only one in scandinavia, guaranteed!)...

Sound design is another...but thinking on a desk, well you could mount it traditionally (like most cases on the one side) or horizontally. But how you are actually going to manage noise manegement...am not sure cooling and noise reduction are compatible...unless you go very lower-power items (not a gaming monster, and not upgradeable)...in which case you could just stick an existing micro-atx or similar which relies on passive cooling somewhere in the desk.

Iff you need a monster pc, you can always separate say pci-e lanes from most of the mobo, using a pci-e backboard....albeit they need lots of cooling.You could even have say 2! one on each side for say gpgpu computing or cuda rendering. And then (assuming you lived in say finland, or alaska, or northern norway), I would have implemented some sort of water-cooling for the 12+gtx titans in there with a powerful pump, and the rads out the window or side of the domicile. Of course iff you lived in florida, wheeell....rads in a chest-freezer....

or maybe in combination with a peltier...!!

Ok this is all in fantasy land, but pretty sure someone has built it already (ok we know the freezer thing is done!)..but iff you live in a cold climate (say WA or AK) then I would have looked at utilizing the cold outside one way or another! Of course iff you live in Bangkok...weeelll good luck! thumb.gif
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Originally Posted by Danisumi View Post

wait, you didn't quote anyone, therefore I don't know if this if for me or not, but if it this.

As I already stated I wanted to go for a desk mod. -> more space on the desk itself for triple screen, cause the 900d would be in the way for me and there's no way I would hide this beast under it ......

and yeah, Mountain Mods, Lian Li or whatever else. I don't care. I won't buy something finished, this thing I want to do should be suited for my special needs and preferences. Therefore it's going to be a desk mod thumb.gif

Or you could simply raise the desk and the chair...and something for the feet! But must admit a desk-mod is cooler! Wish I could do the same but used most of my cash on avalanche gear! Better safe than sorry!
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Dude, that's what I would do once you decide on how to do it (and if you have the skills, which I don't! unless it's a really primitive ghetto-mod!, go for it!). Looking forward to your build!

Happy and happy! with the 900d, it mostly just saved me time...but always more satisfying to diy something rocking. I think next time I will have to attempt! what you're trying, but have to build up some diy skillz first. I would have said also that case-labs make rocking cases, but at the end of the day (how friggin' hard? can it be to build your own case`)....

Dude, keep us updated with a build-log, and good luck! A build can't be that hard, but making it sexy and all, requires some real talent. But ya know you never know until you try....was all up for building a 'helmer' rendering farm myself at one point! Respect and then some for giving it a go!

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Originally Posted by squidman View Post

Ok there are a couple! of things you need to think about tho! Cooling and airflow (negative and positive airpressure) as well as grounding, ditto lengths of cables from PS to components. I think one good thing about modern case design is that they think about this for you (maybe not perfectly, but you it's sort of like lego..yaaay!!)...makes it all a bit easier...and they're getting easier when it comes to standardized parts. (dude iff you need a proper tap for your mobo, I spent a day wandering around bergen to get the right firggin tap!! "#¤%%#!! for my mobo standoffs! only one in scandinavia, guaranteed!)...

Sound design is another...but thinking on a desk, well you could mount it traditionally (like most cases on the one side) or horizontally. But how you are actually going to manage noise manegement...am not sure cooling and noise reduction are compatible...unless you go very lower-power items (not a gaming monster, and not upgradeable)...in which case you could just stick an existing micro-atx or similar which relies on passive cooling somewhere in the desk.

Iff you need a monster pc, you can always separate say pci-e lanes from most of the mobo, using a pci-e backboard....albeit they need lots of cooling.You could even have say 2! one on each side for say gpgpu computing or cuda rendering. And then (assuming you lived in say finland, or alaska, or northern norway), I would have implemented some sort of water-cooling for the 12+gtx titans in there with a powerful pump, and the rads out the window or side of the domicile. Of course iff you lived in florida, wheeell....rads in a chest-freezer....

or maybe in combination with a peltier...!!

Ok this is all in fantasy land, but pretty sure someone has built it already (ok we know the freezer thing is done!)..but iff you live in a cold climate (say WA or AK) then I would have looked at utilizing the cold outside one way or another! Of course iff you live in Bangkok...weeelll good luck! thumb.gif
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Or you could simply raise the desk and the chair...and something for the feet! But must admit a desk-mod is cooler! Wish I could do the same but used most of my cash on avalanche gear! Better safe than sorry!


Thought about everything, if you get to use some cases (which aren't thought entirely through) you get the idea on what to watch for. On both sides I'll use radiators for the cooling. EVERYTHING in that desk will be watercooled. And if possible (for a low price) I'll go for an aluminium casing for the desk, since it doesn't really collect all the heat like wood does, if I end up going for wood, I'll need to paint the inside, cause I wouldn't like the wooden color in the inside (black seems more stealthy and looks always good, through the day and night)

As for all the standardization I'm not really concerned, I'm currently doing a constructeur/design engineer apprenticeship and I also had a lot to do with pc's in the last time (friends, family etc.)

I implemented cable "rooms" inside the desk, where you can route all the internal and external (hdmi,audio etc.) cables. the full motherboard area will be raised (to hide and route cables under it)

here's a little something I did with Solid Edge (not a bid deal, but for looking if everything fits it's ok ^^)





And yes, I'll start a build log, once I'll start thumb.gif


oh and maybe it'll look a bit messy, but hey, there will be 2 pc's inside it aaaand it should be more for practical use (not only for showing off) biggrin.gif
    
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Well even cooler (literally) as you're doing a huge mod, iff you can instead of using the room's ambient temperature, to have your rads on the outside of the building or window! You'd have to work out the flow and things, but that would dramatically improve your cooling (outside vs inside ambient temps, sort of like how the giant serverfarms do it). And then figure out what kind of pump could power that (back in the old days, they had these externally mounted pumps and resevoirs and rads etc!)...

Of course better to do this in your own home, maybe not so practical if you're renting (although you could have extra long tubes, ok). As I'm on xeons, they run pretty cool anyway...this makes most sense watercooling say a very highly overclocked i7 (but still too much effort), but more likely a cpu/gpgpu renderfarm or something (with all on waterblocks)...THEN the external solution could make a lot of sense .

Still very cool idea!

But ok, you want to build 2 pc's I take it? And not one monster pc with pci-e extension or DAS extension for storage? Both should be possible, but could be tricky due to cable length limitations (see the BOXX for pci-e extensions). I guess it depends on what you're using it for.....GPGPU stuff? CAD/Design? Rendering/animation? Gaming (well this is overkill for that! to say the least!)...give us some idea...

Still very cool idea and good luck with the build...will 'sic' be keeping an eye on you! (as the nsa would say, lol! rolleyes.gif)

There's a guy over on the asus z9pe-d8 thread who's built a gpgpu rendering machine with 6! titans for near real-time rendering of archviz and similar stuff...that could be up your alley I think. He bought a separate pci-e box to house them (they need a lot of cooling), but looking up his box (pcie extender, ps, and fans basically), it costs 2500 usd out of the box. Would think (well that's two titans!) you could mod the one side of the desk to accomodate something equivalent..you just need the pci-e extender boards. The big question is how wide your desk, etc. But you could have a monster real-time rendering solution for say autocad, archviz, solidworks, etc using gpgpu solutions such as arion, octane render etc (provided you're happy with their shaders etc)...and spend a lot less money on an external box to power it (+ optimize cooling for those hot cards!). Of course iff your software prefers open-cl, well then radeons are the go. Wallet is of course the limit, but imagine you will save a lot doing your own mod (a couple thousand off the bat? but not including your time of course....)....
Edited by squidman - 3/28/14 at 4:09pm
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Well even cooler (literally) as you're doing a huge mod, iff you can instead of using the room's ambient temperature, to have your rads on the outside of the building or window! You'd have to work out the flow and things, but that would dramatically improve your cooling (outside vs inside ambient temps, sort of like how the giant serverfarms do it). And then figure out what kind of pump could power that (back in the old days, they had these externally mounted pumps and resevoirs and rads etc!)...

Of course better to do this in your own home, maybe not so practical if you're renting (although you could have extra long tubes, ok). As I'm on xeons, they run pretty cool anyway...this makes most sense watercooling say a very highly overclocked i7 (but still too much effort), but more likely a cpu/gpgpu renderfarm or something (with all on waterblocks)...THEN the external solution could make a lot of sense .

Still very cool idea!

But ok, you want to build 2 pc's I take it? And not one monster pc with pci-e extension or DAS extension for storage? Both should be possible, but could be tricky due to cable length limitations (see the BOXX for pci-e extensions). I guess it depends on what you're using it for.....GPGPU stuff? CAD/Design? Rendering/animation? Gaming (well this is overkill for that! to say the least!)...give us some idea...

Still very cool idea and good luck with the build...will 'sic' be keeping an eye on you! (as the nsa would say, lol! rolleyes.gif)

There's a guy over on the asus z9pe-d8 thread who's built a gpgpu rendering machine with 6! titans for near real-time rendering of archviz and similar stuff...that could be up your alley I think. He bought a separate pci-e box to house them (they need a lot of cooling), but looking up his box (pcie extender, ps, and fans basically), it costs 2500 usd out of the box. Would think (well that's two titans!) you could mod the one side of the desk to accomodate something equivalent..you just need the pci-e extender boards. The big question is how wide your desk, etc. But you could have a monster real-time rendering solution for say autocad, archviz, solidworks, etc using gpgpu solutions such as arion, octane render etc (provided you're happy with their shaders etc)...and spend a lot less money on an external box to power it (+ optimize cooling for those hot cards!). Of course iff your software prefers open-cl, well then radeons are the go. Wallet is of course the limit, but imagine you will save a lot doing your own mod (a couple thousand off the bat? but not including your time of course....)....

well, nothing so overkill biggrin.gif

The left pc will be for triple screen gaming on highest settings and the right one would be for recording the Middle screen, since I got into many problems with my internal card and windows 8.1 .
The right one would be for streaming and recording.

Yes, the external radiator idea would be awesome, but impossible for me. (I'm 17).
Yes we live in a house and not in an apartment, but my father would never allow me such thing biggrin.gif But yeah, ambient room temperature will be more than ok, since that desk will be in the cellar/basement. Even in Summer I have an ambient room temp of about 21 degrees Celsius biggrin.gif

Therefore I won't run into all of those problems biggrin.gifthumb.gif

Edit: I'll be using it occasionally for CAD- designing but, it will be more than enough for it too tongue.gif
Edited by Danisumi - 3/29/14 at 2:58am
    
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Very impressive for a 17 year old! You'll go far! biggrin.gif Wish I had been as bright and motivated at that age (well I was very bright and motivated but the world just beat me down afterwards!)...heheh....enjoy this time while you can....thumb.gif Another 20 years and it's all down hill....redface.gif
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My new Project build for this summer, My other produtcs come in monday, with a lightbox from Coldzero. im going with white/black build with sleeved cables!


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