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Having worked in CS for HP for a year, I can pinpoint the exact issue. The customer service, and more specifically the call centers located in the Philippians and India. I can't tell you how many times I would get a call from an angry customer because a foreign agent had charged them 3x for the same thing, or sell them something that would supposedly fix an issue, and it of course didn't.
It all really boiled down to the managers and trainers. Those who were trained and managed well did very well there, made customers happy, and in general most people had a positive experience. But with the lack of accountability the foreign agents had, they could charge you for something you didn't need, then put you on hold for over an hour hoping the customer would just give up and hang up.
On top of that, the way they treated the employee's that actually cared about their jobs was terrible. With the terrible pay, and the way they hide behind corporate rules, I can see exactly why they are going down the drain.
That said, they do have some really nice notebooks that I still recommend after working there. Printers are very hit and miss with them, I've had some really good experiences, and some really terrible ones.
EDIT:
Also does the massive loss they took on the Touchpads factor into this? If so, then that makes much more sense. I believe the cost of production for those was slightly over $275, and with HP dropping them to $199, I can see how they could have taken the massive hit.

Hey, that's a sweeping generalization. I worked for HP Asia Pacific, Enterprise Services and I worked with people from the call centers. They are not bad, people are just to follow SLAs and what not. Touchpad is one of the main problems of HP, it was expected as a rival to iPad and did not deliver hence the stocks fell. HP is just too big, it's just like the soviet union which was so big it had to be fragmented. In the case of HP it is now self imploding.

HP would never fold up, it will most likely close down a lot of its divisions. Which for me is the best way to go for the company. Or some arab group will buy the company which is what has been the trend for companies going downhill
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Our new recommendation is Lenovo. I bought 2 X230s and they seem like decent machines but their trackpads are terrible--as in almost unusable. Track point, ftw.
not when you have to support a datacenter or work in a real enterprise environment.

I'm surprised I don't get more negative feedback on the trackpads for x220/230, I guess most user's like the track point because most drivers cause the trackpad to be awful -- completely unusable. I just wanted to comment to you because there are certain drivers that correct this issue as it is not the trackpad, but the drivers.
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Thanks for the response.

It might be a software problem but i'm also not too fond of the physical build. There seems to be play in the tilting trackpad before you actually click. and it's so small its hard to use the lower edge as the "button" if you will. You have to move the cursor into position on the trackpad and then lift your finger and push the bottom edge of the trackpad to click.

Hate to be that guy but it tries too hard to be like Apple. Not too fond of the bumpy texture either. Having bumps on the trackpad gives me the feeling that it's not precise.

That said, no one has complained about the trackpad either. I'm pretty sure they're using the track point.
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That trackpoint is so awesome. I got a Lenovo R60 a couple years ago, talk about a darn TANK. I dropped the sucker from 6 feet high onto cement and all it did was scuff the plastic. Anywho, when I got it I couldn't figure out what the red dot was for until a few days later I notice it was moving my mouse and I thought it was the most horrible way to control a mouse. Now, I wish every freakin laptop manufacture would ask for a license to use it. I hate trackpads. Trackpoint is the WINNAR!
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this is a dumb comment. all computers have problems. hell in 2006-2008 it seemed like every dell sold died a week outside of warranty. hp is not as bad as some of the other companies now. you work on HP's more than any computer cause they sell 3x's more than anyone else.

Lol have you even cracked open one?
And the laptops are notorious for poor cooling!
    
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HP laptops are crap... They feel cheap and break easily... Not to mention, at work we had 15 8200 Elite desktops come back with the SAME issue. Fans spin 100% and won't boot. Motherboard failed...all right the same time too. 

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That trackpoint is so awesome. I got a Lenovo R60 a couple years ago, talk about a darn TANK. I dropped the sucker from 6 feet high onto cement and all it did was scuff the plastic. Anywho, when I got it I couldn't figure out what the red dot was for until a few days later I notice it was moving my mouse and I thought it was the most horrible way to control a mouse. Now, I wish every freakin laptop manufacture would ask for a license to use it. I hate trackpads. Trackpoint is the WINNAR!

Surprised your hard drive was still alive after that. Even though Lenovo and IBM laptops have accelerometers in their laptops that force the hard drive to park its heads off the platters, you can still destroy a drive by throwing off the spindle motor.

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wait what coupon for 200$?? did i miss out on a 200$ coupon?? is it too late? aww man. what you guys talking about getting these things for almost free.
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Surprised your hard drive was still alive after that. Even though Lenovo and IBM laptops have accelerometers in their laptops that force the hard drive to park its heads off the platters, you can still destroy a drive by throwing off the spindle motor.

LOL I know right!?!? This happened...in 2008. To this day the hard drive still works.
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HP laptops are crap... They feel cheap and break easily... Not to mention, at work we had 15 8200 Elite desktops come back with the SAME issue. Fans spin 100% and won't boot. Motherboard failed...all right the same time too. 

You should try out their Envy lineup. VERY well made so far. Lets see how long it lasts.
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