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This is what I have so far.

Old Seasonic S12-430
£17.99 - Kingston 4GB DDR3 1066 single
£118.18 - WD 3TB 3.5" Green
£43.25 - Gigabyte GA-H61MA-D2V
£32.42 - Celeron G530

The server will mainly be for files and media but also minor things like print. Any other suggestions? I have the case sorted already. Power consumption and price are the only factors for me (performance isn't an issue) but I won't be going mITX since I want the PCI-E slots for SATA cards in the future. Is there anything I should substitute or can I get these cheaper? Especially open to suggestions on the motherboard.

Also does anyone have suggestions on the OS? For OS I'm thinking DSL, Slax or something. Ideally I'd like to run it off a USB stick, so any suggestion for a durable (high writes) 8GB+ stick?

Oh and 64 bit OS would be nice, not sure if any of these stripped down distros would come in it, and I suck at Linux. If I was to get CentOS or something, anyone have suggestions on a place to install it without using a SATA port?
Edited by T D - 8/24/12 at 4:18am
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Personally i find my fileservers arent too bad juice wise, Sempron 140, 2GB Ram, 2x2TB and a 500GB. it uses around 40-50 watts idle and about 70 under load (transfering at 100MB/s to the server ie maxing its gbps) though i would suggest in yours unless you have backup that you should be careful having all the files on the 3TB drive with no raid as redundancy

Also perhaps try freeNAS? it can install onto a USB stick
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Personally i find my fileservers arent too bad juice wise, Sempron 140, 2GB Ram, 2x2TB and a 500GB. it uses around 40-50 watts idle and about 70 under load (transfering at 100MB/s to the server ie maxing its gbps) though i would suggest in yours unless you have backup that you should be careful having all the files on the 3TB drive with no raid as redundancy
Also perhaps try freeNAS? it can install onto a USB stick

Yeah that sounds very reasonable. I think the C530 usually uses less than its TDP according to reviews. I would just use old parts but I don't have any other than the PSU and case. Some of the money going towards it isn't mine so I can't buy used.

And I hear you about RAID, but the budget just can't stretch that far yet. When I get more money I'll add in another HDD but it's not going to be full to begin with so if it dies, the data loss won't be too bad.

I looked at FreeNAS but it has restricted functionality. I'd rather use a proper OS in that it serves files and does other things as well. It would need to have a full desktop interface as well since it might be used for browsing and stuff occasionally.

Do you think it would be a good idea to run CentOS minimal from a USB stick? It's only 300MB, I'm sure it can be modded to write less.
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I have the same CPU but a different motherboard...mine is a H61M-S2H. I needed the PCI-e 1x slots for expansion as well in the future.

 

As for the OS, I'm using WHS2011 that I got for cheap, it performs well and the access times are bound by how fast my HDDs are. Also I needed PS3 Media Server to run as most of the TVs in my house aren't "smart" and they only play MP4's. (Yeah they're Sony Bravias)

 

[EDIT] Forgot to mention that it does transcode on-the-fly via PS3MS and plays without a hitch on all my TVs via PowerLine.

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post #5 of 18
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I have the same CPU but a different motherboard...mine is a H61M-S2H. I needed the PCI-e 1x slots for expansion as well in the future.

As for the OS, I'm using WHS2011 that I got for cheap, it performs well and the access times are bound by how fast my HDDs are. Also I needed PS3 Media Server to run as most of the TVs in my house aren't "smart" and they only play MP4's. (Yeah they're Sony Bravias)

[EDIT] Forgot to mention that it does transcode on-the-fly via PS3MS and plays without a hitch on all my TVs via PowerLine.

What can you tell me about its power consumption? I imagine it's low.

Oh and are the overclocking options on the mobo good for underclocking and undervolting? I imagine all the boards in that lineup are similar in that area.
Edited by T D - 8/24/12 at 4:16am
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What can you tell me about its power consumption? I imagine it's low.

 

Honestly I can't tell you because I don't have those numbers. The server is running all in stock speeds, here are the parts:

 

Celeron G530

Gigabyte H61M-S1H

1x Seagate 160GB OS Drive

2x WD Blue 500GB Raid 1 (PCI-e 1x Raid Card Installed)

2x 1TB Seagate

1x Samsung 320GB OS Back-up Drive

3x Scythe 1.5k RPM 120mm fans

OCZ ModXtreme 600w PSU

 

This server is running 24/7 and for the past month, the power consumption in the house is the same as the months without the server (comparing my electric bills), so I'm guessing it really didn't impact the power usage in the house that much.

 

[EDIT] I'm not sure, I just had it sitting on stock on everything ever since it was built. Quite frankly I really didn't have time to play around with the settings on the board that much. :/ Sorry


Edited by CramComplex - 8/24/12 at 4:21am
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OK fair enough.

I've decided to use an old 2.5" SATA HDD for the OS. If I need the SATA port I'll chuck it in an enclosure and boot it from USB. That solves OS and OS storage.

Any substitutions on parts before I take the plunge?
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OK fair enough.
I've decided to use an old 2.5" SATA HDD for the OS. If I need the SATA port I'll chuck it in an enclosure and boot it from USB. That solves OS and OS storage.
Any substitutions on parts before I take the plunge?

 

Good idea, my next step on my server is looking for PCI-e 1x SATA port replicators so I can put more HDDs in the server when I need to.

 

As for substitutions...I don't think there is any, maybe investing on a quiet CPU cooler rather than using stock is all I can think of right now because right now it's 25*C ambient and my workstation is underwater so there's no noise from it. As for the server well the stock intel cooler IS LOUD...so you might want to look at that. :/

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Good idea, my next step on my server is looking for PCI-e 1x SATA port replicators so I can put more HDDs in the server when I need to.

As for substitutions...I don't think there is any, maybe investing on a quiet CPU cooler rather than using stock is all I can think of right now because right now it's 25*C ambient and my workstation is underwater so there's no noise from it. As for the server well the stock intel cooler IS LOUD...so you might want to look at that. :/

I hadn't heard of SATA replicators until I just googled it. Sounds interesting, though with 4 PCI-E slots (I assume yours has 4 as well) I can't imagine running out of ports using normal controllers! Good shout on the heatsink, I'll look into it. If I can go passive, well that's one less fan to worry about.

Edit: found a CM Hyper TX3 for £13 unless anyone has anything cheaper. I hate push pins, but once it's in it's fine I guess.

Also switching the motherboard to http://www.ebuyer.com/387520-biostar-h61b-socket-1155-vga-6-channel-audio-atx-motherboard-h61b holy expansion slots!
Edited by T D - 8/24/12 at 5:44am
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I hadn't heard of SATA replicators until I just googled it. Sounds interesting, though with 4 PCI-E slots (I assume yours has 4 as well) I can't imagine running out of ports using normal controllers! Good shout on the heatsink, I'll look into it. If I can go passive, well that's one less fan to worry about.
Edit: found a CM Hyper TX3 for £13 unless anyone has anything cheaper. I hate push pins, but once it's in it's fine I guess.
Also switching the motherboard to http://www.ebuyer.com/387520-biostar-h61b-socket-1155-vga-6-channel-audio-atx-motherboard-h61b holy expansion slots!

 

Yeah SATA port replicators aren't well known to many people unless they read up on it or the need arises. For me I learned about it while building my home server. :P

 

The TX3 will keep it well and good but I'd rather get a Scythe Big Shuriken with the fans set on auto via the mobo to spin-up on heat and spin-down when the temps are fine, as well as cooling the RAM and the other components. I currently have a ghetto intake duct going directly to the CPU cooler with a 120mm intake and another 120mm intake directly on the HDDs and 1 exhaust through the top.

 

As for the mobo...LOL...well it's an ATX and it will serve its purpose with all those expansion slots. AFAIK as mobos go the P67s and above are the only ones that can either overclock or downclock your CPU. But don't quote me on that...

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