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This.
Perosnally I use Linux 100% of the time, and there's not many native Linux games that are worth my time, that'll change after the Source Engine is fully ported over, but until then I'm a console only person. Consoles win my vote because I play casual games and can relax on my sofa and play any of my games that I want. There's also the few exclusives that are nice as well.
Although I do occasionally play games via Wine, I'm still not a huge fan of pc gaming.
No reason to go trash talking others though for their own opinions. Sometimes I forget this forum is filled with kids ( or immature adults ), but there's still plenty of mature people that can accept opinions for what they are and not insult people for their choices. I mean, if someone want's to jump off a bridge with a 300' drop, then yeah he's an idiot. But there's no way to make that claim by what gaming platform (console or pc) they like better.

I've basically turned to that too, due to the lack of any interesting games on PC. At least, worth my PC time. There are a few games that I will have to get this time around for PC though, FarCry3 and Crysis3 are both looking to be worth it again. I just don't see why I should buy a game when it's marginally better than the console variant when I have a GTX 460(560 spec OC). It's not even worth it, so most of the new games I have are all console.
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This.
Perosnally I use Linux 100% of the time, and there's not many native Linux games that are worth my time, that'll change after the Source Engine is fully ported over, but until then I'm a console only person. Consoles win my vote because I play casual games and can relax on my sofa and play any of my games that I want. There's also the few exclusives that are nice as well.
Although I do occasionally play games via Wine, I'm still not a huge fan of pc gaming.
No reason to go trash talking others though for their own opinions. Sometimes I forget this forum is filled with kids ( or immature adults ), but there's still plenty of mature people that can accept opinions for what they are and not insult people for their choices. I mean, if someone want's to jump off a bridge with a 300' drop, then yeah he's an idiot. But there's no way to make that claim by what gaming platform (console or pc) they like better.

Exactly that's what I think,just do as you please no matter if the hardware is not as good as a PC's.

Even if the hardware is not so good that's not a valid point to me not to use a console,a valid point should be the kind of games you can play and if you like more the PC ones or playing the ones for both consoles on a PC more than a Console.
That's my case I like playing games like BF3 on my PC than on a console.
 
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Plenty of amazing games for PC. I don't know what world you guys live in, but in mine there are actually more interesting games for pc than the failbox, or the failstation 3.

I just can't bring myself to buy a brand new game for a 7 years old dumbed down computer. (xbox 360)
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This is hilarious.
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Some of the replies in topics like this almost remind me on the comments section of a youtube video of "ps3 vs xbox" or something, actualy makes me cringe.

Looking forward to them coming out to be honest and I will definitely pick one of them up. Im sure in terms of power they wont be too different, for me it comes down to price, exclusives and believe it or not how good the controller is hehe I really hate the PS3 controllers and hope they do something a little different this time. Idealy size and layout of a 360 with the curved triggers of a gamecube controller combined biggrin.gif
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post #146 of 181
Just for some perspective on the likely leap.

The Xbox 360 has a GPU similar to an Nvidia 7900 (but performs closer to an 8800GT), and together with the system memory, shares 512MB of RAM, so it probably gets something closer to 256MB of memory for rendering sometimes a bit more. An Nvidia 7900 on PC would render Crysis at 1080p at "very high quality" at about 5-8 fps, without any AA.

We don't know what the next Xbox will have in it, but based on a late 2013 timetable, the fact that hardware will likely be finalized by Spring to Summer 2013, and that it will need to fit within the price and performance of a console, I would estimate that the next Xbox will have something around a 7850 in it (customized for the console of course). Given the same Crysis settings as above the 7850 would get right about 30-35 fps. So I would estimate that we're looking at about a 6-8x performance increase. I ran the official Crysis benchmark thread and personally tabulated hundreds of results, so I'm going off of that to make these performance estimates.

Let's say consoles manage the high end of the performance increase, which is 8x faster. Most Xbox games are running between sub-HD internal resolutions, if we take COD MW2 as an example, it runs at an internal resolution of 1024x600 and runs at 60fps, which equates to 36,864,000 pixels per second. If it were to be run at 1920x1080@60fps, that would be 124,416,000, which is only 3.375 times the pixels per second more. If the consoles manage the 8x faster mark, that means a definite possibility of either 120fps framerate options for 120hz TVs, or 60fps but with a lot higher quality.

Yes PCs will be faster, but I think most customers will be more than happy with a native 1080p, possibly 120fps, and/or much higher quality.

Just my estimates/two cents.
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I could care less what specs it has..............

To me it is about the gaming experience......... and a uh ... ermh... joystick controller just is no good, not to mention the headache inducing 30 FPS.
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post #148 of 181
The bias here is pretty ridiculous.. while consoles are certainly behind it's still frankly amazing how much they can get out of them. Uncharted 3 is an amazing looking game, hell even Killzone 2 & 3 are great lookers, and most other PS3 exclusives.

We'll see what they bring, I find it a bit hard to believe it's going to really be a massive leap because of the economy. I think the consoles are going to be $400 max, and I think honestly that's stretching it right now. $300-$350 is probably going to be the sweet spot.

A lot of people right now, casuals and everything are perfectly happy with the current generations of graphics. And while comparing say BF3 on consoles vs PC there is a noticeable step up it's not mindblowing in the same up as say the PS1 to the PS2 or even the PS2 to the PS3.

We'll see!
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I could care less what specs it has..............

To me it is about the gaming experience......... and a uh ... ermh... joystick controller just is no good, not to mention the headache inducing 30 FPS.

While your opinion is valid, all opinions are, many people are just the opposite and want something that is easier to use while on a couch than a wireless mouse and keyboard on some kind of tray/table/lap-board. To each their own...
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Given the same Crysis settings as above the 7850 would get right about 30-35 fps.

It's a bit higher than that, here's a link to a Crysis bench on a HD7850.

As you can see, the minimum FPS is actually 35 and average is 44.76.

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