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i agree.. consoles have their own place like pc's do.. some prefer consoles for their pop in the disc and start playing sitting on a couch .. while some prefer pc for their for gaming needs.. some play on both.. i too have both a crappy pc from 2008 as well as an ancient but still fun ps2 from 2007 for my gaming needs.. thumb.gifbiggrin.gif
    
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Well, the whole "glorious pc master race" thing makes some sense if you're comparing to consoles that were designed around the philosophy of essentially being a locked-down-PC-in-a-box experience - it's not much different than saying the real thing is better than an imitation of it.

Basic example: $599 system where many games require installation. Am I referring to a PC or a PS3? (the answer is both)

(this ignores actual availability of games on particular platforms - that is due to other circumstances)
Edited by Nintendo Maniac 64 - 8/23/12 at 11:25pm
 
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I've skipped the current consoles since next gen consoles are around the corner.
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it's more like 6 gens, right?
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I don't know why people here keep comparing console hardware to PC hardware. It's like comparing a screwdriver to a swiss army knife.
 
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post #46 of 181
Quote:
Originally Posted by kikkO View Post

I don't know why people here keep comparing console hardware to PC hardware. It's like comparing a screwdriver to a swiss army knife.

Not quite. If everything was right in the world then the console would be doing a different job than the PC (otherwise they'd be PCs, not consoles) and your analogy would be correct - the DS being the most recent example of this "classic console" definition. The problem is, in the last decade or so, some console makers started making their consoles do jobs that are similar to those of a PC. The thing is, these similar-to-PC jobs are typically done better on a, guess what, PC.

So I'd say a better analogy would be:

Classic console: screwdriver
PC: swiss army knife
Modern console: screwdriver welded onto a swiss army knife
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Well the only good thing I see from this is. We PC gamers will be getting better games in the future. Because we won't have to worry about a console that's almost 10 years old holding us back.
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Quantum leap from crap does not mean it is good.
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Im kind of excited to see, hopefully then we can start pushing pc's forward in the gfx department also.
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Originally Posted by icehotshot View Post

That is correct.
But like I said, back when the 360 came out it was close to PC graphics while having close to PC hardware. And that is not going to be the case for the "next gen" consoles.
I don't know how they would magically be able to optimize the code tons more on the "next gen" than they can with the xbox 360.....

Why wouldn't that be the case?

A Pitcairn XT-class GPU is the most likely candidate for a next-gen box and its probably ~15-20x Xenos included architectural gains.

Why? Because Pitcairn XT at 28nm cost the same as Xenos at 90nm.

Since transistor budgets are the same between both chips(Pitcairn XT is 212mm*2 and Xenos is ~200mm*2), I don't see why there won't be a quantum leap like these devs are stating.

This is all assuming they're keep the thermal envelop the same at roughly 200w. I would love to see a 300w box as power consumption has increased every console generation for 30 years.

I don't think anyone will be disappointed with the graphics. Console gamers demand that there be a significant leap, especially after 9 years.
Edited by BizzareRide - 8/24/12 at 1:45am
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