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Yea we've already talked about all of these things on this thread already.

Consoles are cheaper, and simpler for most end users. The benefits of the current-gen consoles are fading though, as the hardware gap between them and even the cheapest PCs widens, but the cycle may begin anew when the next-gen comes out. The widening hardware gap is probably a big part of what has lessened console game sales and why PC game sales have begun to gain more of the marketshare again.

I'm honestly tired of arguing about this, let's pick this argument back up in about 16 months and see where everyone stands.
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Yea we've already talked about all of these things on this thread already.
Consoles are cheaper, and simpler for most end users. The benefits of the current-gen consoles are fading though, as the hardware gap between them and even the cheapest PCs widens, but the cycle may begin anew when the next-gen comes out. The widening hardware gap is probably a big part of what has lessened console game sales and why PC game sales have begun to gain more of the marketshare again.
I'm honestly tired of arguing about this, let's pick this argument back up in about 16 months and see where everyone stands.

I'm only tired of it because everyone acts like the PS360 are the only consoles in existence. Of course those consoles will be watered-down-PCs-in-a-box, since both Sony and Microsoft were and are computer-industry-related companies. (by comparison, before arcade games Nintendo was a card & toy company and Sega was a carnival game company)
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You clearly don't understand PC gaming...
A 300 dollar device that runs games barely at 720p where as PCs surpass that resolution by a significant margin and destroys it! Mind you, the ps3 at launch was sold for 899 dollars here which is already more expensive than what I built my PC for.
Also,who says you need to spend 1500 dollars each time you upgrade? I build my current PC for 750 bucks, and lets just say that things aren't exactly cheap compared to what you get in the states and I also paid a little extra for mine because I wanted to OC it and get more out of it. You know you don't have to rebuy every new gear for PC; you can reuse the case, PSU,monitor,mouse keyboard for your new build and that's the beauty about building PCs.
You can customize it so that you can keep the cost down. A Cheaper PC will beat a console no question about it.Besides you shouldn't compared to a PC at all. It's like comparing a bicycle to a motorbike.


The problem with your reasoning is that you're not considering the successive PC upgrades that were necessary to maintain the computing gap in your motorbike analogy.

A high-end PC in 2005 would've cost you $1000 whereas an Xbox 360 launched at $299 and looked identical.

Any other further builds or hardware upgrades would have been compounded on your initial investment of $1000...Afterall, we are comparing the time span from which the 360 launched to present day.

Comparing a 2012 build to a 2005 hardware makes no sense.

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They do know that a quantum leap is still pretty tiny, right?

We're not talking about physics, though. As an adjective, quantum means substantial.

Even considering physics, the etymology of the term quantum specifies an electron shifting into another orbit or metaphorically, the shifting of the moon into the orbit of mars. Given the relative size of an electron, any change in orbit is significant; a quantum leap.

I see nothing wrong with the terminology.
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Who else thinks we're going to get the same old generic crap from Activision, EA and Ubisoft when the new consoles come out?

Me! But I do expect to see some great things for Crytek and Epic. thumb.gif I'm sure they will be going to war over graphics supremacy.
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im just sayin, Quantum Leap was a show, in which a dude travelled Backwards in time.

Next Gen hardware will have the same processing power as Curiosity ;p
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I'm definitely hoping for a huge leap forward for the consoles. PC gamers have been complaining for a long time (justifiably) that their hardware isn't really being pushed because of outdated console tech. So why wouldn't anyone want the next consoles to be really powerful? Console gamers win and PC gamers win. Everyone's happy.
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What all PC gamers in this thread are missing and kind of makes me lol a bit is all the fine software that is totally exclusive to console. Had I gone through this gen without playing Naughty Dogs output or moving faster then I ever had in a shooter before in Vanquish or not experienced the soul crushing experience that was Demon's Souls I would have missed a lot.

What PC gamers miss is that the only difference between console and PC games today is filtering techniques, resolution and framerate. 95% of games use the exact same assets across all platforms. I'm glad you have Tri-SLI it's just a shame that development will never be catered towards it and most of what you're looking at is the exact same any guy with a 360 is going to be looking at.

A few games like Crysis 2 or Battlefield 3 bend this rule of asset parity a bit but not much. All you people hating on next-gen consoles need to realize that graphics development is not going anywhere without them and those four GPUs you have in your PC will continue to be completely useless aside from for forcing 8xSGSSAA.
    
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maybe if COnsoles dont get refreshed, then maybe developers will lean towards making more PC native games, and then try scaling them DOWN to work on Consoles.

thats what I wouldnt mind seeing
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That restriction is what makes it so desirable to most people, it means you don't have to worry about things. There's no wondering what settings to use, what hardware you have, what OS you have, what drivers you need, etc. How many people buy a car that they never have to alter or fix on their own? Now how many people buy a car and tweak and mod it and repair it themselves? What are the percentages there, 95/5, maybe 90/10. Now apply that to gaming devices. How many people want gaming devices that they can tweak? Not many. That doesn't make them stupid, lazy, or ignorant as some on OCN would believe (not pointing a finger at you specifically).
Why do you think Apple's app-store makes 3 times as much as all Android app sales combined, when they have 40% fewer devices out there than Android? Consistency (lack of market fragmentation due to many OS and hardware combinations), and a huge amount of people that don't care if their resolution is high, or screen is larger, or that they have more RAM. They just want it to work and don't want to think about it. Just like most gamers, they just want to play games and they don't care about the details.
I had no way to know, his location says he's aboard the USS Enterprise right now, specifically the one from Star Trek: The Next Generation.


I think that pretty much says it all...........lol
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maybe if COnsoles dont get refreshed, then maybe developers will lean towards making more PC native games, and then try scaling them DOWN to work on Consoles.

thats what I wouldnt mind seeing

It's more expensive to scale down, then to not scale much at all, like we see with many multiplatform games designed for console-level hardware and then not scaled up much for PCs. But eventually if no new consoles came out, PC would become the more profitable platform and then yes you would start to see this happen.
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