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Well this is pretty straight forward, I am looking for a GPU that can display RCA component yellow video. I understand that you can use the TV-OUT and an S-video adapter to get this output but I am wondering what displays the best picture.

Why? This is for a carputer setup and my unit only takes RCA yellow input and I would like to keep my unit since it is really nice.

Thanks,
Alan

Future note: I might also get a SECOND GPU to power a legit HDMI monitor after I get some other things up and running. Is there anything I need to consider if I get a second GPU? Could I possibly get a GPU that has a TV-OUT and HDMI? I would much like to combined them into one GPU if possible.

Open to all opinions and questions.
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At first thought I would suggest a converter box. Like this one or check ebay for something similiar "hdmi to composite"


http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&keywords=hdmi%20to%20composite&page=1&rh=n%3A172282%2Ck%3Ahdmi%20to%20composite

http://www.mycashop.com/products/35567/ Never used this store just an example but is what I'd suggest.

Also you may be able to find one gpu that has 2 hdmi connections on the back of it.

Not sure what motherboard you are using with the carputer. Kinda need to know.

But heres a gpu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500217
will be able to do 3d, blu-ray all no problem.

Theres also other possbile ways to do it with no gpu.
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With no gpu you'd have to get a processor with built in graphics and a motherboard with onboard outputs ie hdmi, dvi, vga, displayport and use such an adapter as mentioned above and a hdmi splitter to use the one hdmi into two.

Not sure it you can use more than one port on a motherboard with onboard graphics or not. Which would also be another option.

Would definitely require less power draw on battery/alternator and would require a smaller powersupply and enclosure as well as reduce heat.
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For a carputer nearly any GPU will do because most screens for cars will be something along the lines of 640*480 or maybe 800*600. I think we need some questions answered first though.

1. What motherboard?

2. Power supply?

3. Are you using a case? If so what type? If not how do you plan to support it?

4. Go ahead and tell us what screen you plan on using.

This is working off of the assumption you don't have a GPU already otherwise we are talking adapters.
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For a carputer nearly any GPU will do because most screens for cars will be something along the lines of 640*480 or maybe 800*600. I think we need some questions answered first though.
1. What motherboard?
2. Power supply?
3. Are you using a case? If so what type? If not how do you plan to support it?
4. Go ahead and tell us what screen you plan on using.
This is working off of the assumption you don't have a GPU already otherwise we are talking adapters.

1. I will pretty much say I have 2-3 computers that I was going to convert for usage into a carputer. I will have to check exactly what I have but I know they were Asus motherboards, one having a E8500 and another a Q6600.
2. I have several powersupplies that range from 400W to 600W. Ideally I want to stay in that range since the inverter is around 600W.
3. I am not too worried case wise. I have more than enough room to hide the PC, so I don't have to get a ITX setup. I would probably get a small mid-tower.
4. I do have one GPU that isn't being used - A ATI 2600XT. I also have two Gigabyte passive cooling 4850s in crossfire but they are in my gaming/daily use machine. I COULD upgrade and remove those 4850s but it really depends on the options I have.
5. The screen is a Pioneer N2 screen. Specifications are here:

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Car/GPS-Navigation/AVIC-N2
6.5 inch / 16:9
336,960 (1,440 x 234)

I honestly would consider a Lilliput to make my life easier but I have no more room on the dash with a Pioneer N2 and a Pioneer DEQ 9200. The only other option I would have is if I would build a mount and holder for a retractable monitor (20"-30") for the passenger side. However, that wouldn't be for a while considering the other projects I still have for the car.
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With no gpu you'd have to get a processor with built in graphics and a motherboard with onboard outputs ie hdmi, dvi, vga, displayport and use such an adapter as mentioned above and a hdmi splitter to use the one hdmi into two.
Not sure it you can use more than one port on a motherboard with onboard graphics or not. Which would also be another option.
Would definitely require less power draw on battery/alternator and would require a smaller powersupply and enclosure as well as reduce heat.

I don't really need two HDMI outputs, I just need one TV out and one HDMI out. From researching last night, it seems that I can get that in one card. The ones you listed don't seem to have a TV-OUT. My question now is, does running the TV-out and HDMI tax the card? If so, which card would be the best? I am not really going to be doing heavy gaming or anything of that nature. You don't have to worry about the alternator/battery, I already sorted that out and they are fine. The battery is a deep cell optima yellow top so it has tons of room and I have a 250amp alternator to handle everything.
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At first thought I would suggest a converter box. Like this one or check ebay for something similiar "hdmi to composite"
http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&keywords=hdmi%20to%20composite&page=1&rh=n%3A172282%2Ck%3Ahdmi%20to%20composite
http://www.mycashop.com/products/35567/ Never used this store just an example but is what I'd suggest.
Also you may be able to find one gpu that has 2 hdmi connections on the back of it.
Not sure what motherboard you are using with the carputer. Kinda need to know.
But heres a gpu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500217
will be able to do 3d, blu-ray all no problem.
Theres also other possbile ways to do it with no gpu.

That converter box looks pretty good but from what I have been told, the quality can be hit or miss. Plus the "good" converter boxes are almost $300. Seems a bit out stupid for me to get that when I could get a GPU with TV-OUT for a small fraction of that cost.
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Ok from your answers here is what I would suggest. Seems like you'll just have a full desktop in your car which I will warn you now that may be cumbersome and difficult. The biggest issue is the screen. That's a great headunit but since you have to switch to RCA there will be some limitations. My recommendation is to get a half height card with a DVI and S-Video output. Scaling will be the problem here. I've done this with my PC in a car and you will have to play with the video card settings once you get it in.

Any of these GPUs will work: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=Property&Subcategory=48&Description=&Type=&N=100007709+600026339&IsNodeId=1&IsPowerSearch=1&srchInDesc=&MinPrice=&MaxPrice=&PropertyCodeValue=2328%3A14103&PropertyCodeValue=2328%3A14101&PropertyCodeValue=2328%3A14100&PropertyCodeValue=2328%3A14201&PropertyCodeValue=2328%3A14104

And you'll need one of these as well: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882021048&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-pla-_-NA-_-NA

BTW another suggestion would be to ditch the inverter and go with a DC powersupply. That way you don't have a DC -> AC-> DC conversion step.
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Ok from your answers here is what I would suggest. Seems like you'll just have a full desktop in your car which I will warn you now that may be cumbersome and difficult. The biggest issue is the screen. That's a great headunit but since you have to switch to RCA there will be some limitations. My recommendation is to get a half height card with a DVI and S-Video output. Scaling will be the problem here. I've done this with my PC in a car and you will have to play with the video card settings once you get it in.
Any of these GPUs will work: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=Property&Subcategory=48&Description=&Type=&N=100007709+600026339&IsNodeId=1&IsPowerSearch=1&srchInDesc=&MinPrice=&MaxPrice=&PropertyCodeValue=2328%3A14103&PropertyCodeValue=2328%3A14101&PropertyCodeValue=2328%3A14100&PropertyCodeValue=2328%3A14201&PropertyCodeValue=2328%3A14104
And you'll need one of these as well: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882021048&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-pla-_-NA-_-NA
BTW another suggestion would be to ditch the inverter and go with a DC powersupply. That way you don't have a DC -> AC-> DC conversion step.

Thanks for the information. The reason I am not worried about space is because I removed my rear seats. My car is a two door car and I got tired of people sitting behind me. 1996 Toyota Supra should have never been designed with back seats. This gives me ALOT of space to put things in which is why I wanted to run a full desktop.

Scaling I understand I will have to play with but as long as it is outputting, I am sure I can fix that issue. Since I had a full desktop, I didn't want to get a half-height card.

On the DC->DC powersupply, I couldn't seem to find a powersupply that could handle over 300W continuously. Also most quality inverters are around 80% efficiency and even higher when closer to their output levels. Since I already had one, I said I might as well use it. Not to mention I already have a alternator easily capable of putting out 250A and a battery that can be drained fully and trickle charged back up.

It looks like I might just run a single card (might check CL for a cheap card locally) and use the small midtower that I have. I might even use the HTPC case that I have or get a PC case that doesn't have a DVD drive since I won't be needing/using one after installing windows and all that jazz.

Thanks for all the help and keep the answers coming!
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If I may ask what is the purpose of the carputer. Media only? or are you doing some car tuning/diagnostics as well.
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Hey if you have the room and power for it then no worries. Be careful with inverters and power spikes on power ups and shutdowns though. Second is be sure to have a really good ground for your entire system with a inverter. Took me way to long to figure out where a very light buzzing sound was coming from when my inverter powered up. ninja.gif

Post up your components for the system I may be able to find a power supply for you though. One last thing of note which you may already know but just in case...do not use a regular hard drive in a car. SSD's are the only thing that will survive the bumps and bangs. I keep media on a portable that I plug in once I'm headed down the road and on a smooth road. I killed a drive or two bumping down the road.
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yeah I have a few ssd from sales on slickdeals so I am set. i have the inverter grounded to where the unibody is so its perfect.

The computer specs are:
Asus Motherboard (forget which one)
Q6600 processor
2 case fans (nothing crazy)
4x2gb ddr3 ram
pci-e wifi card
(not sure what gpu but maybe a gtx240 or 4850)
I might run a catleap 30in in the future so that will need the inverter too

Im probably going to use a portable to store music and movies and a large jump drive like 32/64gb jump drive
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