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post #11 of 21
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Originally Posted by NewBurned46 View Post

will noctua d14 or 14s fit in mine? i have a X3 Crow¹ | ATX Gaming Tower with asus sabertooh 990fxr2 motherboard.
Yes, as the cat said, the D14 will fit.
No idea what a D14S is. Do you mean D15S or U14S?
post #12 of 21
i meant an u14s. also i would like to ask what if i wanted an h100 or 105 .Would it fit? Some say it wont and to put fans outside top case.Will there be a problem how the air flows in the rad like that if there is space in between the rad and the fan?
Edited by NewBurned46 - 6/2/16 at 11:13am
post #13 of 21
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Originally Posted by NewBurned46 View Post

i meant an u14s. also i would like to ask what if i wanted an h100 or 105 .Would it fit? Some say it wont and to put fans outside top case.Will there be a problem how the air flows in the rad like that if there is space in between the rad and the fan?

A space between the rads and fans? Not a good idea. With the cheap high fpi aluminum rads that Coarseair use, the air would prefer to go around the rad rather than through it. Cooling performance would be horrible. Altho the noise would be a little less than the usual near-leafblower levels of those CLCs. You're sort of picking the extremes - high noise, decent temps with h100 vs low noise, decent temps with the D14/U14.

Tough choice, unless you let your ears decide. If the h100 fans are run slowly to meet the sub 40dB noise levels that the D14/U14 deliver, the h100 performs much worse. With the h100, there's added points of failure (crappy low flow pump), more cost and more noise. Not seeing the value here. Oh, world-class marketing. That's totally worth it.

If you really feel that liquid cooling is for you, don't waste your money on the Asetek re-brand CLC junk that has flooded the market. Go with either EK Predator or Swiftech 240 series that have much higher quality parts and the ability to expand into a full custom loop.
post #14 of 21
as i said before i have a h55 and uder full load it gets as high as 73 74 at stock clock and voltage and the summmer has just begun ,cpu is a fx 8350,i used arctic thermal pastee and in the first day the max load wouldnt go higher than 52 even on prime .after few days max temp would increase somehow ..i read reviews here and there and some say the difference for example between h55 and u14s is ony around 5 to 8 c.is it true?i was thinking about h100 or above because my brother has it and its like 5 temp idle and around 30 35 max temp with same cpu.thanks for helping me by the way,i hope im not to much of a bother.
post #15 of 21
If you don't mind the noise and added cost for the h100, that's an option - assuming it will fit your case.

Another great air cooler for AMD fx overclocks is the Silverstone He01 - as miklk has shown.

Also it's vital with a large air cooler to ensure there's good case intake air flow. If you're not using the upper drive bays, can install a good 140mm intake fan to ensure strong intake air flow to the cooler.

No bother at all, we're all here to help each other in the air cooling zone. Sometimes we like to help too much to keep people safe from over-priced CLCs. biggrin.gif
post #16 of 21
yeah i think with h100 it wont fit for 1 cm because it hits motherboard.i only want cooling for gaming.dont care realy much for oc at least not like 4,5 ghz..even my gpu is cooler than cpu which is a sapphire trix 280x.with your experieence if i got a u14s dual fan will i be able to see any difference compaired to the h55 i have now?
post #17 of 21
What that hairly black thing said. tongue.gif
But I would not even consider the h100 or any other clc. You can almost buy a nice case and a good air cooler for the price of clc, especially if you change the clc fans. Besides, a good case and air cooler will be quieter, last longer and be just as 'cool' (pun intended) to everyone but the CLC cult members (aka zombies & ghouls). biggrin.gif
NH-D14 with 2500rpm fans (TY-143, a14 ippc 2000, a14 ippc 3000) and case airflow to match will be better than h100. Silver Arrow performs same as NH-D14, and Silver Arrow SB-E is maybe 2c better, like NH-D15. Silver Arrow SB-E Extreme or IB-E Extreme are about 8c better than H100.

This is Silver Arrow SB-E Extreme, but Silver Arrow IB-E is same performance.


Here is NH-D14 with 2500rpm TY-143 fans. 1200rpm is about what stock fans do and 2400 is like CLCs sound and perform. The same kind of performance increase as Silver Arrow SB-E Extreme did in above testing giving much better cooling than H110 CLC. Just remember case airflow has to be increased to supply the almost twice as much air to CPU cooler as normal cooler fans use.


Here is ciarlatano's test data from his testing. Keep in mind Swiftech coolers are not CLC. NH-D15 is using stock 1500rpm fan.

Edited by doyll - 6/3/16 at 2:59am
post #18 of 21
thank you for the pic it helped .u14s with NOCTUA NF-A14 2500 or 3000 rpm will do good job in case i dont get a d14?
post #19 of 21
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Originally Posted by NewBurned46 View Post

thank you for the pic it helped .u14s with NOCTUA NF-A14 2500 or 3000 rpm will do good job in case i dont get a d14?
Glad to help. Those are the best examples I know of that show just how crazy this CLC hype really is .. and what we can do with good air cooling. @miklkit has a couple of extreme systems using hi-airflow fans.
post #20 of 21
The H55 was giving max 52C at first but now it is giving 74C? That clunker is dying. The FX is hard to kill but you are trying to kill it.

Forget the U14S. While it is a good cooler it does not blow air down on the motherboard VRMs and the Sabertooth needs lots of air on them. What you want is a twin tower cooler with adjustable fans. Those are the Noctua D14/D15, the Silverstone HE01.

If you are not going for ultimate overclocks the Phanteks 14PE is adequate, but nothing more. I am running one now and it is ok for everyday use but not for serious overclocking.

Then there are the coolers that have their fans locked into place like the Thermalright Silver Arrow, Cryorig, DRP3 and others. The SA comes with the TY143 fans and cools the CPU very well. I first achieved 5 ghz with it, but the Sabertooth VRMs overheated. The others are down a notch because of their weaker fans. Others who have tried them on FX CPUs have not been able to go over 4.8 ghz.

In short, get a D14/D15 with the TY143 fans, the Silver Arrow SBE/IBE Extreme with the ty143 fans, or the Silverstone HE01 with a second FHP-141 fan. Then concentrate on case airflow. Feed the beast!

You have a solid base with the Sabertooth/8350. Give it the cooling it craves and you will be amazed at the performance it can deliver.
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Samsung 850 EVO 500gb SSD Western Digital 500gb  Memorex Lightscribe dvd Thermalright Silver Arrow IB-E Extreme 
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