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HTC can finally take over!
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So Apple innovating with improving the phone and PC is called copying even though those those innovations never existed previously but when Samsung clones exact features, it's called taking inspiration?
Prior to the Powerbook 100, most laptops had no pointing device (trackpad, trackball, trackpoint, trackbar) integrated, and those who did, hung it off the left or right side. The Powerbook 100 established the first design that places the keyboard near the hinge, and the pointing device near the user, with palm rests surrounding it. The result was a laptop where you could type and move the cursor without moving your hands away from the keyboard.
The GUI as you know it today, was invented by Apple. Apple invented the idea of menu bars, pull down menus, the trash, the idea that windows should be able to be overlapped, and the idea that when you interact with a widget it responds immediately on-screen(amongst other things). When you clicked on an icon you got a pop-up menu: this was the intermediary between the user’s intention and the computer’s response. Jobs’s software team took the graphical interface a giant step further. It emphasized “direct manipulation.” If you wanted to make a window bigger, you just pulled on its corner and made it bigger; if you wanted to move a window across the screen, you just grabbed it and moved it.
Xerox didn't invent or own the idea of the mouse either. The PARC researchers copied the idea from the computer scientist Douglas Engelbart, at Stanford Research Institute, fifteen minutes away on the other side of the university campus. Engelbart dreamed up the idea of moving the cursor around the screen with a stand-alone mechanical “animal” back in the mid- nineteen-sixties. His mouse was a bulky, rectangular affair, with what looked like steel roller-skate wheels. If you lined up Engelbart’s mouse, Xerox’s mouse, and Apple’s mouse, you would not see the serial reproduction of an object. You would see the evolution of a concept.
Google didn't invent the web search engine. But their contribution to the field (PageRank) was significant enough to establish a whole new level of search engines.
Facebook didn't invent online social networks, but they evolved it to a point where it was usable by the common folk and not hideous (myspace).
Apple evolved the PDA, cell phone, and touchscreen technologies into a new level of smartphones. Samsung tried to loosely mimic the iPhone.
There's a difference between copying and evolving. Recognize it. http://www.businessinsider.com/heres-samsungs-step-by-step-guide-for-how-to-copy-an-iphone-2012-8?op=1
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post #93 of 150
Those images were were discussed prior to this thread and I'm sure it was told that the blocky USB plug design was a generic, off-the-shelf design. I'm unsure about the USB lead design. Google Maps can only look like Google maps, and the last image they look nothing alike.

Also, Nope lost credibility when he refused to post proof.
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Only the first of those images require explanation from Samsung, and only for the 32pin port. The rest of it is generic USB off-the-shelf stuff, the map program is Google and will look the same regardless of the device it's on, and the last picture is indicative of every smartphone made (you know... rectangular screen, round corners?).
    
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Apple Laywer: "And what is this device I'm holding my my hand?"

Samsung guy in dock: "It's a Galaxy S1"

AL: "And can you tell me.... does it make phone calls?"

"SGID: "Yes, yes it does"

"AL: "Your honour, I rest my case"

Lucy Koh: "Ladies and gentlemen of the Jury, your instructions are to find in favour of Apple" *slams iGavel down* Dismissed.
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Only the first of those images require explanation from Samsung, and only for the 32pin port. The rest of it is generic USB off-the-shelf stuff, the map program is Google and will look the same regardless of the device it's on, and the last picture is indicative of every smartphone made (you know... rectangular screen, round corners?).

what about the 4x4 grid, 4 icon home bar, and centered page dots between the grid and home? Besides, other than the size that phone DOES look like an iPhone 4. When I was in Costa Rica last week, the hotel receptionist had a black one and white one both on the counter, and it took a good 5 seconds for me to realize they weren't iPhones. Wihout an iPhone next to it the size difference is difficult to notice.
Edited by Phelan - 8/26/12 at 12:15pm
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what about the 4x4 grid, 4 icon home bar, and centered page dots between the grid and home? Besides, other than the size that phone DOES look like an iPhone 4. When I was in Costa Rica last week, the hotel receptionist had a black one and white one both on the counter, and it took a good 5 seconds for me to realize they weren't iPhones. Wihout an iPhone next to it the size difference is difficult to notice.

You can't have seen many phones other than iPhones, then. Those phones look nothing like an iPhone. It has "SAMSUNG" written on the front for god sake. They're not easily mistaken.
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You can't have seen many phones other than iPhones, then. Those phones look nothing like an iPhone. It has "SAMSUNG" written on the front for god sake. They're not easily mistaken.

With a glare of light it's easy to miss the Samsung logo. Just like you can't see the logo on the phone above! If you take the logo off, it looks extremely similar. Just cuz I change a logo on something doesn't mean it's a different looking product.
Edited by Phelan - 8/26/12 at 12:27pm
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Except that it doesn't at all.

Black background, numbered pages. Green battery icon. Non-centered clock, network status icons on the opposite side.

It looks nothing like an iPhone.
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what about the 4x4 grid, 4 icon home bar, and centered page dots between the grid and home? Besides, other than the size that phone DOES look like an iPhone 4. When I was in Costa Rica last week, the hotel receptionist had a black one and white one both on the counter, and it took a good 5 seconds for me to realize they weren't iPhones. Wihout an iPhone next to it the size difference is difficult to notice.

Icons and the arrangement of on a few inch by few inch screen is not patentable. There are only so many ways to present them; the original Droid series, for example, has an extremely similar layout... As did the F700, which so far as we know was developed simultaneously as the iPhone. It's not copying the innovations of others anymore than Honda copied Hundai for a sedan interior. Natural evolution of design and all.
    
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