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wait a minuet he was in the uk so how come a us court can fine hine he isnt a citizen off the usa the usa doesent have jurisdiction in this country unless the uk has become the 52 stat if so i want my right to bear arms

You didn't heard what happened to kim dotcom? It doesn't mateer where you live, if you violate any contry law, they can get you
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Yes they are actually. What's the point of punishment if it's not to deter to crime?

Justice..?
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You didn't heard what happened to kim dotcom? It doesn't mateer where you live, if you violate any contry law, they can get you

Didn't you hear what happened to Kim Dotcom? The US didn't get him! lol

Just making a joke. Though they really didn't get him, as the US didn't really have a case. He will likely sue the US government and win big money.
 
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Didn't you hear what happened to Kim Dotcom? The US didn't get him! lol
Just making a joke. Though they really didn't get him, as the US didn't really have a case. He will likely sue the US government and win big money.

They didn't got him because there are some issue about the warrant, but if they did it right, they probably got him.
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They didn't got him because there are some issue about the warrant, but if they did it right, they probably got him.

No. They have to let him go because the warrant was invalid. The reason he was not allowed to be extradited was due to an incredibly weak case brought by the the US Government (FBI in this case). Even if they (the New Zealand government) didn't want to allow him to be extradited (because of a shoddy job with the arrest), if there was still a case they would have prosecuted him themselves.

But this is OT here. Your original point is correct, just not really your example.
 
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That fine is crazy. I was a loss prevention associate 8 years ago. If you stole something worth $31 dollars in the store, you'd get banned from the store. The End.
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You don't know how water-tight their case is until you go to court. These things are not open-and-shut. There are plenty of similar threats being sent to people that would not stand up in court but companies make revenue from it. They know that if they threaten to take 10 people to court, at least one of them will pay up just to be safe.
If (settlement amount * number of people that pay settlement) > (number of IP addresses * the cost of sending a threat)
Then goto Profit
They don't have to be able to win in court, they just need a small percentage of the people to feel that it's not worth taking any chances and they have a profit making business model.
Yep, your average you or me would have to take legal advice, and it seems there's plenty of bad advice to be taken. Someone told him he could win even though he'd downloaded the tracks illegally. I expect they said sorry to him after the fine increased more than ten fold.

I think you need to factor the cost of bringing a case against someone to court and losing (you pay associated court costs?) into the equation. There's a chance everyone you threaten with a fine will go to court and if they win it's a big loss, also if one wins then they're all likely to. Seems like a large risk for the chance of a couple of people paying a small fine. I guess you'd want good legal advice and be sure you'll win to make it worth while, or just be large enough to absorb the loss without facing ruin if the gamble doesn't pay off.
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There's a chance everyone you threaten with a fine will go to court and if they win it's a big loss...

The company doesn't have to follow through and take them to court if the file sharer doesn't pay the settlement. The company might not really want going to court since it's not always open-and-shut and it's so costly. Sometimes it's just threats for profit. This happens more often with illegally downloaded pornography because they figure a lot of people are going to pay to avoid the embarrassment.
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"File-sharer told to pay $675,000"

"File-sharer actually pays $0"

"Music-industry pays $50k in legal fees"

"Pirates continue to pirate music..."

The End. smile.gif
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Yes they are actually. What's the point of punishment if it's not to deter to crime?

Rehabilitation and compensation.

Being 'made example of' is simply just lazy rulings and a lazy way to run a business.

Now I'm not saying what this guy did was right, but the law is very much biased towards to the record labels at the moment.
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