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OK, can you not attempt to backpedal please. You said.
The iPhone did not set this precedent. Functionality and advancements in technology set this precedent. Many different companies came to this conclusion around about the same time. Not only that, but in complete isolation from each other.

If the iPhone didn't set the rule for the current smartphone form factor, what did? Because it sure as hell wasn't the LG Prada you mentioned earlier?

The prototypes that Samsung showed to prove they didn't copy apple were absolutely terrible. Typical cheap touch-screen supermarket-bought rubbish.
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I never said it was the equivalent, that was a symbolism on your take on the current situation. In terms of the notebook universe, I see it as a game changer, or a revolutionary. Every other notebook makes tiny steps, this was more than an evolutionary step, it was an unprecedented leap. But that's just my view on it.

Ok I can see what you're saying, fair enough, although I'm still not sure I agree on how you view it.
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False. They will appeal.

Oh I'm sure they will and if they succeed then the tables will turn and I'll chose to agree with the outcome.

For now though I'll chose to hold off from backing a company that is yet to prove anything.
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5:16:14 PM PDT: The court is back in order and Judge Koh is back at the bench.

Now, take your off topic non-sense somewhere else.

I'm sure the MacForums will love your opinion.
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If the iPhone didn't set the rule for the current smartphone form factor, what did? Because it sure as hell wasn't the LG Prada you mentioned earlier?
The prototypes that Samsung showed to prove they didn't copy apple were absolutely terrible. Typical cheap touch-screen supermarket-bought rubbish.

Look at the blocked out evidence, the Samsung f700
 
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Let me reiterate my point.
Nobody here should question the decision once the case is completely closed. I could question numeres cases about the outcomes but it really won't get me anywhere because that's the outcome that the court has went with. Samsung have every right to but once the uninformed users start throwing conspiracy theories into the air then it becomes a parody of itself.

The thing is that you can question something without throwing conspiracy theories into the air. I do question that this was the right choice, I don't think I should change my own views just because this jury decided Samsung were guilty. Not to mention that I question the whole patent system it's self.
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Look at the blocked out evidence, the Samsung f700

Was that not a sliding qwerty physical-keyboard-phone? If it is the one I'm thinking of, I don't quite get your point?

The main issue in this suit was Trade Dress and it was ruled to be copying. As someone else said, I'll believe whatever the jurors found as fact. The legal judgement shall remain correct as far as I'm concerned.
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Originally Posted by Monstrous View Post

If the iPhone didn't set the rule for the current smartphone form factor, what did? Because it sure as hell wasn't the LG Prada you mentioned earlier?

You need to read what I wrote.
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The prototypes that Samsung showed to prove they didn't copy apple were absolutely terrible. Typical cheap touch-screen supermarket-bought rubbish.

Apples prototypes were equally terrible looking. By today's standards most technology from that long ago, looks terrible.
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5:23:37 PM PDT
Apple argues that based on the nuance of the language in the instructions this is a non-issue and both decisions can stand. Koh admits that she "is swayed" by Apple's argument.
5:22:58 PM PDT
Either way, Samsung is just looking to argue anything it can at this point.
5:22:42 PM PDT
Apple is saying there are no inconsistencies here, but per the jury instructions Koh doesn't seem to agree.
5:19:39 PM PDT
Samsung's attorneys are now arguing that the jury's finding of patent exhaustion not be valid because one of the prerequisites for patent exhaustion is that Apple's devices had infringed in the first place.


Ughhhh.
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I hate apple. It reminds me the guy that won 28 billion against a tobacco company.
http://money.cnn.com/2002/10/04/news/companies/philipmorris/index.htm
Ended being 28 million. Just 0.1% of the initial win. Samsung will appeal.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco_politics#Significant_cases
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Philip Morris Cos., the No. 1 cigarette maker, was ordered Friday to pay a record $28 billion to a 64-year-old woman with lung cancer who blamed her tobacco addiction on the company's failure to warn her of the risks of smoking.

2002 Lawsuit with the 28 billion.
2003. Reduced to 28 millions.
2008. Reduced to 13.8 million.
Source

This puts it in perspective. SAMSUNG WILL APPEAL.
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