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What did people expect in an American court room with American citizens? For all we know the jury could have been majority iPhone users with no proper knowledge of other phones or even the opposite, Samsung users who hated iPhones. An American company fighting a company from another nation, there has to be some form of bias or nationalism at stake, even if it was only a tiny factor. Something like this should be done in some form of International court, with no bias and the jury made entirely of people with knowledge of the industry.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BenRK View Post

I don't get it. Are they just reading off the charges or is all those yes' a "guilty" verdict?
I think it's a guilty verdict, otherwise, why would there be a "No" for certain devices? I'm not a lawyer and I haven't been called up for Jury duty yet so you've got me....
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REFORM. THE. PATENT. SYSTEM. NOW.
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What did people expect in an American court room with American citizens? For all we know the jury could have been majority iPhone users with no proper knowledge of other phones or even the opposite, Samsung users who hated iPhones. An American company fighting a company from another nation, there has to be some form of bias or nationalism at stake, even if it was only a tiny factor. Something like this should be done in some form of International court, with no bias and the jury made entirely of people with knowledge of the industry.

Jury system is a stupid system anyways
    
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This is FAR from over. The verdicts will be cross-appealed to the Federal Circuit Appellate Court by both parties for each claim one or the other lost. All this does is determine each party's posture on appeal for each claim.

Given the number of claims and sub-issues and arguments, it may take another 3-5 years for both sides to exhaust all appellate options in this case.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Moynesy View Post

What did people expect in an American court room with American citizens? For all we know the jury could have been majority iPhone users with no proper knowledge of other phones or even the opposite, Samsung users who hated iPhones. An American company fighting a company from another nation, there has to be some form of bias or nationalism at stake, even if it was only a tiny factor. Something like this should be done in some form of International court, with no bias and the jury made entirely of people with knowledge of the industry.
No, the jury IS made of people with knowledge of the industry and technology. Make sure to review your facts before spouting what you "believe" to be true.
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There are in reverse chronological order, very bad news across the board for Samsung so far:

3:57:50 PM PDT
No across the board. Not a single one proven invalid by Samsung.
3:57:33 PM PDT
381 Not proven invalid.
3:57:16 PM PDT
Invalidity. Another biggie.
3:57:06 PM PDT
STA: Yes for all but D'087 and D'889
3:56:41 PM PDT
SEA: Yes for 381, 915, 163
3:56:23 PM PDT
SEC: Yes for all but D'087 and D'889
3:56:00 PM PDT
Sorry, last question was whether Samsung should have known. This next one is willfulness.
3:54:58 PM PDT
D'087: Yes for S 4G, Vibrant. No for S2 ATT, S2 Epic 4G Touch, S2 Skyrocket, Infuse 4G.
3:54:36 PM PDT
D'677: Yes for Fascinate, S 4G, S2 ATT, S2 Tmobile, Epic 4G Touch, Skyrocket, Showcase, Infuse 4G, Mesmerize, and Vibrant
3:54:06 PM PDT
Question 9 — was Samsung willful in its infringement? Big one here for damages.
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Tell me, what exactly is similar about these other than the fact that they uh..both have screens and use the color black?


Four columns of evenly spaced icons, both have bars at the top of the screen. Dots used to designate multiple pages, the current page dot being highlighted.

There's plenty of similarity, the issue is whether little crap like that should be able to be patented or not. I don't think so, it stifles innovation.
Edited by lordikon - 8/24/12 at 3:58pm
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What did people expect in an American court room with American citizens? For all we know the jury could have been majority iPhone users with no proper knowledge of other phones or even the opposite, Samsung users who hated iPhones. An American company fighting a company from another nation, there has to be some form of bias or nationalism at stake, even if it was only a tiny factor. Something like this should be done in some form of International court, with no bias and the jury made entirely of people with knowledge of the industry.

Either way, I'll go without a cell phone or even buy illegally on the black market before I buy an Apple product. I don't support nazi's.
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it seems that all of them are just questions on whether or not a patent was infringed. most are saying yes and some are saying no


Here we go:


3:54:06 PM PDT
Question 9 — was Samsung willful in its infringement? Big one here for damages.
3:53:43 PM PDT
No across the board
3:53:09 PM PDT
D'889 Patent.
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No, the jury IS made of people with knowledge of the industry and technology. Make sure to review your facts before spouting what you "believe" to be true.

Apparently, not so: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57499944-37/how-qualified-is-the-apple-samsung-jury-we-found-out/?ttag=gpwl
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