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Hey guys,
Getting bluescreens all the time and pretty sure it's hardware related, so have decided to build a new computer. I multitask all the time, heavily.. I like to be able to play a game, upload things to my gameserver, monitor my server. compress files, mess around with game models/skins, do university work, go on map editors, browse, listen to music, use MSN, Skype or TS3 etc. all at the same time. Computer is currently too slow to be able to play BF3. Want to be able to start playing that as well.

Really haven't thought a great deal about it yet. Want to order in the next few days though because I'm getting really pissed off with all the bluescreens. Would like to keep supporting AMD.
Currently thinking:

CPU (£100 with cashback):
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/amd-fx-8120-black-edition-orochi-core-s-am3plus-31ghz-16mb-total-cache-ht-5200mt-s-125w-retail

Mobo (£100) (Cheapest 990FX I can find. Is it worth having 990FX? On this one would I have space in the PCI slot to be able to put my XtremeMusic? or would the dual slot Video card occupy it?)
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/gigabyte-ga-990fxa-ud3-amd-990fx-s-am3plus-ddr3-sata-iii-6gb-s-raid-sata-pcie-20-%28x16%29-atx

RAM (£73) (Want to keep 2 slots empty to be able to leave possibility of adding another 16gb)
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/16gb-%282x8gb%29-corsair-ddr3-vengeance-jet-black-pc3-12800-%281600%29-non-ecc-unbuffered-cas-10-10-10-27-xm

VGA (£154)
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/2gb-xfx-radeon-hd-7850-core-edition-4800mhz-gddr5-28nm-gpu-860mhz-1024-cores-dual-link-dvi-i-hdmi-2x

SSD (£65) - I was just looking at price and claimed speed. Kingston any good?
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/120gb-kingston-hyperx-25-ssd-sata-iii-6gb-s-sandforce-mlc-flash-read-555mb-s-write-510mb-s-85k-iops-
(going to keep my 640gb harddrive for additional files as well)
Edited by The-Anarchist - 8/24/12 at 5:47pm
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I don't want to sound like a fan boy, but I think your money would be best spend on intel chips. What is the total budget?
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Originally Posted by andrewmchugh View Post

I don't want to sound like a fan boy, but I think your money would be best spend on intel chips. What is the total budget?

It's somewhat flexible but i'd hate to spend over £300 on the RAM/Mobo/CPU.
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What kind of BF3? For multiplayer/small-scale single player, you basically just want the best video card you can afford. For the larger multiplayer maps, you need a fast quad-core. That's going to mean either a HEAVILY overclocked AMD chip, or any i5.

Whatever AMD solution you should go with should be cheaper than an i5-3450 + full scale ATX B75, or you're wasting money on inferior performance.
    
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Originally Posted by MisterFred View Post

What kind of BF3? For multiplayer/small-scale single player, you basically just want the best video card you can afford. For the larger multiplayer maps, you need a fast quad-core. That's going to mean either a HEAVILY overclocked AMD chip, or any i5.
Whatever AMD solution you should go with should be cheaper than an i5-3450 + full scale ATX B75, or you're wasting money on inferior performance.
So about £200 which is the cost of the 8 core and the 990FX.

I need to know whether it's worth paying so much for the 990FX or whether a 990X or something else will do just as well for my application.
Nobody know specifically about AMD motherboards/chipsets?
Edited by The-Anarchist - 8/24/12 at 6:54pm
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post #6 of 12
A quality 970 will be fine - the 990x is basically a 970 with sli if I remember correctly.

But if you have the money, a locked i5 will have superior (gaming) performance over an overclocked AMD frown.gif.

Of course, unlocked i5 is better than that... but $$.
    
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There's no reason to buy a 990 board for an AMD rig unless you intend to use Crossfire or SLI. The 970 offers the same CPU support. The only difference is that the second full-length PCIe slot is limited to x4 speed. If you ran Crossfire on a 970, it would be about a 5 percent performance hit.

There are 970 boards that you want to avoid because of poor VRMs, but Gigabyte's GA-970A-UD3 is as rock-solid as any 990FX board, and the ASUS M5A97 and Biostar TA970XE also can handle any job you throw at them.
     
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post #8 of 12
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Originally Posted by jsc1973 View Post

There's no reason to buy a 990 board for an AMD rig unless you intend to use Crossfire or SLI. The 970 offers the same CPU support. The only difference is that the second full-length PCIe slot is limited to x4 speed. If you ran Crossfire on a 970, it would be about a 5 percent performance hit.
There are 970 boards that you want to avoid because of poor VRMs, but Gigabyte's GA-970A-UD3 is as rock-solid as any 990FX board, and the ASUS M5A97 and Biostar TA970XE also can handle any job you throw at them.

Thanks alot for that. Is it true that if I want Sata raid with a sata (optical) disk drive I'll need a second controller on the Mobo?
Edited by The-Anarchist - 8/24/12 at 8:08pm
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post #9 of 12
Well 100£ is pretty good for and 8120. For the price to upgrade to i5, you could get a pretty beastly cooler, and probably match, if not beat the i5....., and if the 8 cores are also good for heavy multitasking.... just my opinion.
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That Build Sounds Just Fine For all the Stuff you will be Doing thumb.gif
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