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Those temps are still not good. I have no idea how they got a Noctua to run a 80C
Because its a i7-930 they run much hotter than sandy bridge especially at 1.3v+
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We controlled air-conditioning, room temperature has fluctuated between 24.3 and 24.6 ° C.

Kind of surprised to see those nice air coolers fall short of this cooler in a ambient like that.
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Did either of you actually read the various benchmarks posted above?
The second link has the Water 2.0 Extreme tested at four different speeds against a Noctua NH-D14, Prolimatech Megahalems, and Thermaltake Frio Extreme (the dual tower, dual 140mm fan Frio).
Here's just one of those speed results.
Comparative results: Idle-Load @ 1950 RPM
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http://www.pcaxe.com/hardver/hladjenja/thermaltake-water-2-extreme/strana-11
http://www.pcaxe.com/hardver/hladjenja/thermaltake-water-2-extreme/strana-12
http://www.pcaxe.com/hardver/hladjenja/thermaltake-water-2-extreme/strana-13

Those temps are still not good. I have no idea how they got a Noctua to run a 80C


I dont know what your talking about. Those are better temps than what I got with an XSPC RS360 in P/P on my i7 960 @ 4GHz.
     
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Yes those are good temps on a 930,people just don't remember how hot they ran. Looks like a nice setup to me,if the quality is there.
Maybe a better example
http://www.overclockerstech.com/thermaltake-water-20-extreme-review/4/
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really disappointing that they didn't include comparable closed loop liquid cooling setups for comparison benchmarks. I wanna see how this stacks up against H100, H80, Etc.
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I am impressed with the results, after everything is taken into consideration (older i7 930, decent overclock, high voltage, compared air coolers). The performance would only be better on the 2500K/2600K processors which seems to be the most common amongst enthusiasts, as SNB runs cooler and at lower voltage levels.

Also, the performance can only be improved, as this is testing the stock unit, by means of adding two more fans for push-pull, changing from the stock fans to 2 or 4 high performance high-pressure fans (AP15s, AP30s, Ultra Kaze, Panaflo, San Ace, Delta, Koolance 120x25mm or 120x38mm 2800rpm 5.4mmHg/7.6mmHg fans, and so forth), system-specific mounting and airflow direction, high-grade TIM (HeGrease, PK1, IC Diamond, etc), and so on.

A huge benefit is that the radiator itself is 36mm thick, not a measly 25mm like the under performing and overpriced (unreliable?) H100, which is this unit's main competitor. I don't know what the fin density is, but based on the pictures I would guess somewhere between 16-22fpi which is very good. It is the first 240mm sealed liquid cooling system that actually has a decent rad, as the H100 is not really any better than the cheaper H80/Antec 920 as the H100 gives up a lot of surface area due to being pathetically slim against the single-120 but 38mm-thick models. Thermaltake has apparently realized this and I applaud them for bringing an appropriate solution to market.

Also, from what I understand, the pump in this unit is a vast improvement over the H-Series, both in terms of flow and in reliability, although the latter cannot truly be determined until a number of units have been in use for a greater period of time. Still, mechanically, it is superior and I would bet that you are far more likely to receive a dysfunctional H100 than one of these.

The cold plate is also seemingly improved, with a better surface and one that appears to be larger as well. This means that those of us who have SandyBridge-E processors have another option for strong cooling, assuming that you don't want to go the custom route as I did. The H100 is able to decently cool a 3930K up to about 4.2Ghz but beyond that they get too hot for me; I would bet that this is good for another 200-400mhz before hitting my "uncomfortable temp" threshold, but again that is variable between chips.

The hoses and connections are also much better looking and appear to be larger in diameter than the H coolers, and more importantly they are supposedly constructed of a far superior material which is not only more flexible but also much more resistant to tearing or otherwise breaking. This makes mounting the radiator externally a far more viable option, assuming you can get the pump+coldplate unit back inside. If you can do that, you will benefit from the cooler ambient room air instead of pushing warm case air through the rad, or heating up the inside of the case by running the fans opposite the last.


All in all, I have no doubt that this is the best SLC on the market, and would be my recommendation for anyone looking for such a unit. I have always thought of these types of coolers as inadequate for "real" overclocking/performance use, but this may change my perspective a bit. While I still don't consider the sealed liquid cooling units to be anything more than "Ultra-Premium Air Coolers", and not true water cooling (they aren't, just like a CPU Heatsink with vapor tubes is not a water cooler, plus the sealed units all use pure ethylene glycol, so it's NOT water), I do think that they have advantages over more traditional air cooling units. They remove the weight of the rad off the motherboard, they keep case temps lower, they allow for only ambient air to pass through the fins instead of warm case air, and they can outperform the more traditional air cooling units in some cases although this is the only unit I can see consistently providing better performance than the NH-14D and its ilk.

Sure, for the price you can spend $20 more and get an XSPC RASA RS240 kit and get a much better package with far better performance, not to mention expansion options, but many don't want the hassle of a custom loop. For those people, this is the absolute best way to go IMHO.
   
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The cooler-master eisberg coolers will be the AIO to beat. This is a 920 with a bigger radiator from the looks of it, even the software.
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NikkTech - Thermaltake Water 2.0 Extreme Liquid CPU Cooler
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The Thermalright Silver Arrow listed below is the Silver Arrow SB-E Extreme edition (2500RPM fans), not the standard Silver Arrow SB-E. The Extreme edition is a few degrees cooler than the SA and SA SB-E.

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TechRadar - Thermaltake Water 2.0 Extreme review
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Benchmarks

Stock cooling performance
CPU 100% load: Degrees centigrade: Lower is better
THERMALTAKE WATER 2.0 EXTREME: 50
THERMALTAKE WATER 2.0 PERFORMER: 54
ARCTIC COOLING FREEZER I30: 58

Overclocked (3770K @ 4.5GHz)
CPU 100% load: Degrees centigrade: Lower is better
THERMALTAKE WATER 2.0 EXTREME: 59
THERMALTAKE WATER 2.0 PERFORMER: 70
ARCTIC COOLING FREEZER I30: 77

Peak to idle
Peak to idle: Seconds: Lower is better
THERMALTAKE WATER 2.0 EXTREME: 145
THERMALTAKE WATER 2.0 PERFORMER: 167
ARCTIC COOLING FREEZER I30: 152


Rating: 4.5/5

For

Excellent cooling performance
Very easy to fit
Good price
Well designed

Against

Not enough washers in the box


Svět hardware - Thermaltake Water 2.0 Extreme Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Motherboard: Gigabyte 890GPA-UD3H (AMD 890GX)
Processor: AMD Phenom II X6 1100T (default frequency, voltage increased to 1.5 V -- 1.45v base)
Reference cooler: Noctua NH-U12P
RAM: Kingston HyperX - KHX2133C9AD3X2K2/4GX
Graphics card: integrated graphics chip in the AMD 890GX
Hard drive: 1TB Samsung HD103SJ
Source: Enermax Infiniti EIN650AWT - 650 W
Ambient: 22-23° C

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XFastest - Thermaltake Water 2.0 Extreme integrated water cooling radiator
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CPU: Intel Core i7-3960X@4.5GHz
Cooler: Thermaltake Water 2.0 Extreme
Thermal Compound: Antec Formula 7
MB: ASRock Fatal1ty X79 Champion
RAM: Corsair Vengeance DDR3-1866 4GB * 4 _AT_ 2400 MHz 10-12-12-30-1T
Graphic: Galaxy Hall Of Fame Hall of Fame GeForce GTX680 2GB the SOC
Storage: Adata XPG SX900 SSD 128GB
PSU: Antec High Current Pro HCP-1200W
Chassis: Lubic the the Open Paltform
Monitor: Dell U2410
OS: Windows 7 64 Bit
Ambient: at 27゚C 60% relative humidity


Temperature performance

LinX burn-in 15 minutes, the fan full-speed mode, the maximum temperature came 86゚C

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Originally Posted by nleksan View Post

I don't know what the fin density is, but based on the pictures I would guess somewhere between 16-22fpi which is very good.

http://www.pcaxe.com/slike/hardver/hladjenja/ThermalTake/Water_2.0_Extreme/Slike/TT_Water_2.0_Extreme_45.jpg
http://www.pcaxe.com/slike/hardver/hladjenja/ThermalTake/Water_2.0_Extreme/Slike/TT_Water_2.0_Extreme_54.jpg

"Zig-zag aluminum flakes are densely folded, but the distance between them are not exactly uniform, ie ranging from 1.3 up to 1.7 mm, but the average somewhere around 1.4 mm spacing to adjacent sheet."

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really disappointing that they didn't include comparable closed loop liquid cooling setups for comparison benchmarks. I wanna see how this stacks up against H100, H80, Etc.

These two comparisons were already included in the first post.

Overclockers Tech - Thermaltake Water 2.0 Extreme Review Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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[Mini Review] Thermaltake Water 2.0 Extreme (aka Asetek WaterChill 2011C)

In addition, here's another.

NikkTech - Thermaltake Water 2.0 Extreme Liquid CPU Cooler


The Thermalright Silver Arrow listed below is the Silver Arrow SB-E Extreme edition (2500RPM fans), not the standard Silver Arrow SB-E. The Extreme edition is a few degrees cooler than the SA and SA SB-E.

i7 3930K @ 4GHz
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Edited by Metric - 8/30/12 at 1:16am
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I installed one of these in a build I did recently (a build for a customer) and wow, I was super impressed. Great temps, quiet, it will be my next cooler I think.

EDIT: Here are some pics:
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Edited by Mygaffer - 8/30/12 at 2:04am
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CM Quickfire TK (red) Corsair AX-1200i Significantly modded Jupiter .. something alumi... Logitech G700s 
Mouse Pad
3M Ergonomic 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel Core i7 3820 X79-UP4 Gigabyte 390X G1 Club3D 7870 Eyefinity 6 
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64 GB Barracuda 3 TB WD Green 3 TB Crucial M4 256 GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Crucial M4 64 GB Barracuda 4 TB Sythe big shuriken rev B Windows 7 Pro 64 bit 
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DELL U2311H (x3) DELL U2312HM (x2) 9.7'' 2048x1536 (x3) IPAD3 retina Asus PB287Q 4K 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
CM Quickfire TK (red) Corsair AX-1200i Modded Sharkoon VS-3 Logitech G700s 
Mouse Pad
3M Ergonomic 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel Core i7 3820 X79-UP4 Sapphire 7950 FleX OC XFX 6770 Eyefinity 5 
GraphicsRAMHard DriveHard Drive
Club3D 7870 Eyefinity 6 64 GB Samsung 750 GB F3 Barracuda 3 TB 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
WD Green 3 TB Crucial M4 256 GB Crucial M4 64 GB Barracuda 4 TB 
CoolingOSMonitorMonitor
Custom loop Windows 7 Pro 64 bit DELL U2311H (x3) DELL U2312HM (x2) 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
9.7'' 2048x1536 (x3) IPAD3 retina Asus PB287Q 4K CM Quickfire TK (red) Corsair AX-1200i 
CaseMouseMouse Pad
Modded Chieftec Smart WH-02B-B-OB Logitech G700s 3M Ergonomic 
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