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Interesting read. I prefer custom open loops for cooling! I'm not a fanboy period in the sense that name will get you nowhere with me, but quality and performance will get my attention. That said air coolers have gotten seriously big and heavy and I refuse to put that much weight on a board. Which narrows it down to closed or custom loops. I build rigs for other people and while I will do what a customer wants no question. From first hand experience however, I will say this. If it's up to me, and you are my customer, your rig is going to have a TT 2.0 extreme in it or a custom loop. I know this thread is a month old from the post before me but even now I feel the same.

Fact is I even have a TT 2.0 ext, I use for benchtests, and to cool my personal rig when I have my loop down for cleaning. Form, function, performance all rolled into one, out of the box. Granted I drop the stock fans and add 4 fans for push pull, but really even with the stock fans it's rock solid cooling solution. OH! For you corsair fans my personal rigs in an 800d because it was less expensive then a tj11 and met my needs. I however will not candy coat anything the corsair closed loop in comparison to the TT 2.0 ex are garbage, I have seen h100 and even h100i's fail way to often pump goes , fans whine, leak right out of the box you name it, yet not one TT to date has failed (personal experience anyway, though I have heard stories I have not seen it first hand yet)thumb.gif
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Interesting read. I prefer custom open loops for cooling! I'm not a fanboy period in the sense that name will get you nowhere with me, but quality and performance will get my attention. That said air coolers have gotten seriously big and heavy and I refuse to put that much weight on a board. Which narrows it down to closed or custom loops. I build rigs for other people and while I will do what a customer wants no question. From first hand experience however, I will say this. If it's up to me, and you are my customer, your rig is going to have a TT 2.0 extreme in it or a custom loop. I know this thread is a month old from the post before me but even now I feel the same.
Fact is I even have a TT 2.0 ext, I use for benchtests, and to cool my personal rig when I have my loop down for cleaning. Form, function, performance all rolled into one, out of the box. Granted I drop the stock fans and add 4 fans for push pull, but really even with the stock fans it's rock solid cooling solution. OH! For you corsair fans my personal rigs in an 800d because it was less expensive then a tj11 and met my needs. I however will not candy coat anything the corsair closed loop in comparison to the TT 2.0 ex are garbage, I have seen h100 and even h100i's fail way to often pump goes , fans whine, leak right out of the box you name it, yet not one TT to date has failed (personal experience anyway, though I have heard stories I have not seen it first hand yet)thumb.gif

I work at a computer repair and retail shop and we do a lot of custom builds for people, many of them fairly high end. Having used many different closed loops I have found the ThermalTake Water 2.0 Extreme to be the absolute cream of the crop. Quieter than the others while having much better cooling, they are a joy to work with.

In fact I only bought it b/c my supplier was out of the H100 but had this. I did some quick research, it looked like a solid unit (I find ThermalTake's products overall to be hit and miss), so I bought it and was really surprised by how awesome it is.

I just ordered one tonight as an early Christmas gift to myself. Superbiiz.com, a great site and the consumer side of Malabs (who is a wholesaler and one of my suppliers) has a deal on it:
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=CA-CLW0217
$129.99-$10 promo code, means $119.99+tax and shipping, ground shipping was free to my area code. Hopefully this helps put it in financial reach of some people who are unwilling to pay $149.99 like some sites are asking.
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$200 here is the UK....

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$200 here is the UK....
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post #105 of 122
Well it's been over 3 months since I put the Water 2.0 Extreme in my new rig and I have to say it's performed admirably on silent all the time. Extreme is well, noisy as hell and rattles the top plastics on my CM Storm Trooper (probably need more screws on that rad). For the $120 I paid for it, I feel it's well worth it.

I did end up fixing my TT software not reading the fan speeds. Apparently my motherboard manual had a misprint (since corrected on currently shipped boards) on the which header was the case fan header. I had to open her up and switch the header it was plugged into.

I've had zero problems. No leaks, a very minor pump noise (system will have to idle for hours before I can make it out), and the fans haven't failed or made any loud noises.
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I'll stick with Corsair. When the first Hydro series from Corsair came out, someone had a leak while he was gone and fried most of his computer. Guess what Corsair did, they replaced his system free of charge.

Would Thermaltake ever do something like that? Hell no.
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I'll stick with Corsair. When the first Hydro series from Corsair came out, someone had a leak while he was gone and fried most of his computer. Guess what Corsair did, they replaced his system free of charge.
Would Thermaltake ever do something like that? Hell no.

I've seen it stated in several places direct from the mouth of Thermaltake that Thermaltake will cover any costs if something breaks. I wouldn't be surprised if it was something that Asetek covered. NZXT has also said the same thing about their Kraken. As far as I'm concerned, there's no reason to get the louder, worse performing, and just as expensive H100 or H100i.
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I'll stick with Corsair. When the first Hydro series from Corsair came out, someone had a leak while he was gone and fried most of his computer. Guess what Corsair did, they replaced his system free of charge.
Would Thermaltake ever do something like that? Hell no.

While I would never buy the lesser product because of a longer warranty it IS nice that the Corsair H100 has a 5 year warranty. Since ThermalTake is selling the unit at a premium over the H100, which makes sense given its unquestionably better performance, you would think they include at least a 3 year warranty.

While I think the product is great ThermalTake should realize that if you are going to sell an enthusiast part like the Water 2.0 Extreme at enthusiast pricing like $149.99, then you need to give an enthusiast warranty, 3-5 years.
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The chances of a CLC leaking is pretty slim, so it wasn't even a real concern for me. Even with a warranty in this event, I'd still probably lose my data, I doubt a warranty will get my data back. Warranty, I'd assume would be more of a peace of mind with a product like this. I make the assumption Asetek (and CoolIT) know what they are doing when they release a product like this and let other brands resell for them. As for $150, take a look again. Some sites are listing $145-$160 with a $15 rebate that brings it down to $130+. It seems Thermaltake's own store lists at $130 (I'd assume there would be no need of warranty buying direct). So check with where you shop before you scratch off Tt's offering based on a repeated price tag in this thread. You can also wait for a deal (like I did a few months back) whereby you might be able to get the Extreme for less than a H100.

For me I was sold on: 1. cooling performance over the H100, 2 quieter operation, and 3. more flexible tubing.
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The chances of a CLC leaking is pretty slim, so it wasn't even a real concern for me. Even with a warranty in this event, I'd still probably lose my data, I doubt a warranty will get my data back. Warranty, I'd assume would be more of a peace of mind with a product like this. I make the assumption Asetek (and CoolIT) know what they are doing when they release a product like this and let other brands resell for them. As for $150, take a look again. Some sites are listing $145-$160 with a $15 rebate that brings it down to $130+. It seems Thermaltake's own store lists at $130 (I'd assume there would be no need of warranty buying direct). So check with where you shop before you scratch off Tt's offering based on a repeated price tag in this thread. You can also wait for a deal (like I did a few months back) whereby you might be able to get the Extreme for less than a H100.
For me I was sold on: 1. cooling performance over the H100, 2 quieter operation, and 3. more flexible tubing.

I bought one so I am not "scratching it off". I did get a deal, I bought mine for $119.99, without rebate, I am something of a deal hunter. That being said it still one of the most expensive coolers on the market and should come with a longer than one year warranty. It really, really should. I like the product, I have used the product in my customer's builds, and I have purchased the product for my main rig.

That being said if my $120-150 product dies 367 days after I bought I should get a free replacement. One year is is just a pitiful warranty term for this kind of product and not in line with what everyone else, including Corsair, offers and will cost them some sales. I work in IT and many people care about support and warranty terms.

I don't know why you bring up your data as in most cases you data would never be at risk, as any leaking water would not touch your drives. Any data you would upset to lose needs to be backed up anyway. The warranty is supposed to protect you from losing your investment should the product fail early in its life.

It is OK to criticize a product you like, in fact that is the only way these products get better.
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