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So I got a big surprise while doing some maintenance on my water loop. It's being more than a year since I put it together and never really done any maintenance on it ( I know I shouldn't have let it go that long). Well finally got around to it yesterday basically ran some distiller water and vinegar mix in there for about an hour then proceeded to drain it and replace with clean distilled water and let it run for about 10 minutes. I did this like 5 times. Took the loop apart rinsed with more distilled check for any signs of residue. I redid all of my tubing to make it look better also some cable management it was a fun day most have taken about 6-7 hours. Now came time to put it back together. A while back I had read that shin etsu TIM was suppose to be the best and no curing time so I've been using it for about 2 years first on my h50 and then on my waterloop. This time I didn't have any, I thought I had a syringe left but couldn't find. I did however have artic silver. So I figured I put it on just for now and other some more shin. Put everything back together an shoot it up. Open up real temp and wow my idle is down more than 3 degrees from the first time I put my loop together. Again this difference in temp was from when I first got the loop. So with this in mind I ran prime for about 2 hours and it only. Hit 70c on 1 of the cores the rest are 67-68 and 1 only hit 65. Now with the shin and the exact same loop I was hitting 75-76 degrees and I now artic silver has a curing time so should I expect even a bigger drop I know nothing much but maybe another 2-3 degrees maybe? So does this mean that artic silver is better than shin etsu? With these result it seems like it. Any thoughts?

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There is a possibility the temperature differences are due to a poor/good mount. Also I suspect after going a year without cleaning now the water is passing through the fins and everything much better. Could that possibly be a contributing factor? Dirty system = a few more degrees?

Just a thought.
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Nice temp drop. Don't forget to turn the system off once in awhile.

"Due to the unique shape and sizes of the particles in Arctic Silver 5's conductive matrix, it will take a up to 200 hours and several thermal cycles to achieve maximum particle to particle thermal conduction and for the heatsink to CPU interface to reach maximum conductivity. (This period will be longer in a system without a fan on the heatsink or with a low speed fan on the heatsink.) On systems measuring actual internal core temperatures via the CPU's internal diode, the measured temperature will often drop 2C to 5C over this "break-in" period. This break-in will occur during the normal use of the computer as long as the computer is turned off from time to time and the interface is allowed to cool to room temperature. Once the break-in is complete, the computer can be left on if desired. "
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There is a possibility the temperature differences are due to a poor/good mount. Also I suspect after going a year without cleaning now the water is passing through the fins and everything much better. Could that possibly be a contributing factor? Dirty system = a few more degrees?

Just a thought.
The difference was from when I first put the system together more than a year ago so the system being dirty is not a factor also the mount either since I remounted then block a second time a month after the initial mount and the temps where the same so really the only changing factor is the TIM.


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post #5 of 11
The mounting too is what I think could have done the improvement.

I just moved away from my AS5. (there was a settling, the oil seperated from the mix in the tube)
Used a PK-1 and saw like a 3-degree(C) drop, again could have been my mounting. But the PK-1 is a lot easier to use :-D
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Nice temp drop. Don't forget to turn the system off once in awhile.

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Yeah I ran prime for about an hour to get it to temp and then shut it down to let it cool I'm planning on doing this maybe 2-3 times a day for the next 2 weeks


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The difference was from when I first put the system together more than a year ago so the system being dirty is not a factor also the mount either since I remounted then block a second time a month after the initial mount and the temps where the same so really the only changing factor is the TIM.
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Then maybe the amount of TIM biggrin.gif AS5 really likes to be thin thou. Just like a thin film in between. Maybe it just spread really good. Lol, you will not want to take it off now as you might not get a good mount like this again biggrin.gif
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AS5 really likes to be thin thou. Just like a thin film in between

Yup. When I put my AS5 on I generally do an EXTREMELY thin asterisk shape. Basically, if you did a pea size in the middle and spread with a card or the heatsink. Same thing.

Works great.

Also, there are just too many variables that could have contributed to your temp change. You couldn't be 100% sure it was just the TIM, but who cares! The temps are lower.
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AS5 really likes to be thin thou. Just like a thin film in between

Yup. When I put my AS5 on I generally do an EXTREMELY thin asterisk shape. Basically, if you did a pea size in the middle and spread with a card or the heatsink. Same thing.

Works great.

Also, there are just too many variables that could have contributed to your temp change. You couldn't be 100% sure it was just the TIM, but who cares! The temps are lower.
Yeah I'm not complaining I'm real happy I was just very surprised. Now I'm Thinking of pushing my over clock a bit more I'm running 4.1 right now I want to see if I can get close to 4.5 without my temps hitting 80c under prime.


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