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8/25/12 at 3:21pm

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Hi All,
Would it be a good idea to use 2 Scythe Slip Streams on a H80, in a push/pull configuration? Are there better fans to use?

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8/25/12 at 3:58pm

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1. Yes, good idea to push/pull Slipstreams.
2. Yes, there are better fans. Gentle Typhoon AP15's may have the best air-flow per noise ratio and under-volt well to around 1000 rpm where they are quiet. Martin tested many fans at http://martinsliquidlab.org/category/fans/. Good luck.

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8/25/12 at 5:03pm

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What I ment was, Should I use the Slip Streams instead of the fans that come with the H80.

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8/25/12 at 6:43pm

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Should I stick with the stock H80 fans?

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8/25/12 at 8:37pm

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Slipstream fans are terrible for rads. Get something with at least 3mmHg static pressure or don't bother to switch. I replied to your post in Air Cooling forum.

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8/26/12 at 10:24am

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Slipstream fans are terrible for rads. Get something with at least 3mmHg static pressure or don't bother to switch. I replied to your post in Air Cooling forum.

I don't disagree to try stock fans first. But I disagree that "Slipstream fans are terrible for rads". See FANS 101: Going Scientific. Using a lower static pressure on a rad, such as a Slipstream 1900 rpm, can be fine if one uses 2 fans in push/pull to make up for the low static pressure.

Each fan has a P/Q curve like a pump. Similar to how a high resistance loop requires a powerful pump, a high air resistance radiator (usually high fins per inch) requires either high static pressure fans or lower static pressure fans in push/pull. This means using a lower static pressure fan, like a Slipstream, makes push/pull almost mandatory to ventilate the radiators, especially if the rad is high fpi. But it doesn't make the fan "terrible". It an be salvaged if you already have two.

With a high static pressure fan or low air resistance rads you can usually achieve your temperature goals in push only although push/pull will always ventilate rads better than push alone. Here is more on push/pull by Martinm210 here and here. Good luck.

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I don't disagree with anything you said, except for the part about slipstream fans being good on rads. The problem, even more so than the static pressure, is the fact that slipstreams blow air in a giant cone pattern with almost zero flow anywhere except the edges. I am standing here with one plugged in and blowing air, and from one foot away I can open my hand fully in the center of the "cone" and I only feel anything with the very edge of the tips of my fingers.
They simply aren't radiator fans, nor are they of any use for intake case fans if there is any type of obstruction even a HDD bay, but rather they are extremely high flow volume fans that are designed to work well as exhaust fans and as interior case fans. I promise that you can get immensely better rad fans for the same price or cheaper (Bgears Blasters, Koolance 120x25mm or 120x38mm 2800rpm Fans, etc). I have all three, and the only one I can't feel from 4-5ft away is the Slipstream, and the rest are rated for lower airflow volume.

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4x Thermaltake 120mm 1800rpm/58cfm Case Fans	Windows XP Professional	2x 22" Viewsonic LCD 1680x1050 Monitors	Old Compaq MECH Keyboard !!
Power	Case	Mouse	Audio
Thermaltake Toughpower 560W PSU	Modified Thermaltake Xaser V Limited	Logitech M510	Grado SR325 Mahogany Audiophile Headphones
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Intel Core2Duo E8600	Asus Stryker LGA775	HD5870	8GB Crucial DDR2-1066 5-5-5-10
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive
2x Seagate 7200.9 320GB	x2 Seagate 7200.7 160GB	1x WD Caviar SE16 160GB (OS)	x2 Maxtor DiamondMax+ 200GB
Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling
3x WD Caviar SE16 80GB	LG/Hitachi Slim DVD-R/W	LG Blu-Ray Burner	3x Scythe Slipstream 1900rpm 120x25mm Fans
Cooling	Cooling	Cooling	OS
2x Delta 120x38mm PWM Fans (2.2-4.8krpm)	2x Delta 92x38mm PWM Fans	Misc Assortment of 80/92/120/140 fans	Windows 7 Pro x64
Monitor	Monitor	Monitor	Power
Dell 22" 1680x1050	LG 55" LED-LCD 120hz Television	Epson DLP Projector (up to 1920x1200)	Enermax 750W PSU
Case	Audio	Audio	Audio
Antec SOHO Case (Modified for better cooling)	Creative Sound Blaster Audigy Platinum	Pioneer VSX-D819S 6.2CH DD/DTS Receiver	2x Pioneer Class-D Amplifiers
Audio	Audio	Audio	Audio
2x Cerwin Vega VE-12 3-Way Tower Speakers (FR/FL)	2x RTR Series V Model 20 4-Way Tower Speakers (...	2x JBL SoundStage High-Dispersion 3-Way Bookshe...	2x JBL Professional-Series Subwoofers 12"+15"
Audio	Other	Other	Other
MonoPrice 12AWG Copper-Stranded Speaker Cables ...	Netgear N900 Wireless Card with 3x Detachable A...	3x Netgear 5-port Managed Switches	Hauppage TV Capture Card
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If you don't mind the noise levels the Slipstream 1900s are very good on rads. From proper testing in Martin's Round 8

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	Graphics
i7 970	Asus P6TD Deluxe	PNY 580 GTX	PNY 580 GTX
RAM	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive
Corsair Dominator GT PC3-15000	Crucial M4	Crucial M4	Samsung F3
Optical Drive	Cooling	Cooling	Cooling
Sony Optiarc AD-7960H Slimline DVD-RW	Blocks - Aquacomputer Kryos XT, 2 x EK FC-580GT...	Radiators - 2 x XSPC RX480, Black Ice SR1 480	Pumps - 2 x Swiftech 35X
Cooling	Cooling	OS	Monitor
Reservoir - EK Multioption X2 400 Advanced	Fans - 16 x Noiseblocker PL2	Windows 7 Pro 64-bit	Acer P223w x 2
Keyboard	Power	Case
Enermax Aurora	Seasonic Platinum 1000	Case Labs TH10 & Pedestal
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CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	Graphics
i7 970	Asus P6TD Deluxe	PNY 580 GTX	PNY 580 GTX
RAM	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive
Corsair Dominator GT PC3-15000	Crucial M4	Crucial M4	Samsung F3
Optical Drive	Cooling	Cooling	Cooling
Sony Optiarc AD-7960H Slimline DVD-RW	Blocks - Aquacomputer Kryos XT, 2 x EK FC-580GT...	Radiators - 2 x XSPC RX480, Black Ice SR1 480	Pumps - 2 x Swiftech 35X
Cooling	Cooling	OS	Monitor
Reservoir - EK Multioption X2 400 Advanced	Fans - 16 x Noiseblocker PL2	Windows 7 Pro 64-bit	Acer P223w x 2
Keyboard	Power	Case
Enermax Aurora	Seasonic Platinum 1000	Case Labs TH10 & Pedestal
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