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Originally Posted by 2010rig View Post

An interesting quote from the juror.
Too bad the jury never got to see the Samsung F700.
Well played Judge Lucy Koh, well played.

No one would get those 2 mixed up.....
post #122 of 185
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Originally Posted by BeerPowered View Post

The verdict is definitely not set in stone. I don't understand why people think Apple won when the battle is far from over.
This case will be appealed and retried with 3 new judges. Then Im sure it will be appealed again, to the Supreme Court.
When a Judge from the Supreme Court hands down the verdict, then you can say such and such won.

Can you explain how Samsung has a chance for a appeal? Let alone the Supreme Court?

This is what Google said in emails to Samsung's design team, (source)
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The Samsung e-mails presented as evidence during the trial included a Feb. 16, 2010, internal message describing minutes from a design meeting that was sent to “pass along only a few comments from Senior Designer Cho who went into the Google meeting yesterday,” according to the message.

“Since it is too similar to Apple, make it noticeably different starting with the front side,” according to the message, referring to one of Samsung’s tablets.
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A second e-mail, dated Feb. 22, 2010, was sent to more than 30 Samsung employees. “I am notifying you of the team leader’s directives from the executives’ meeting yesterday,” the message begins. The sixth item on the list addresses a need to “respond to the issue of design similarity for the S series,” which Samsung designer Kim Jin Soo testified was a reference to the company’s S series of smartphones.

“Google is demanding distinguishable design vis-à-vis the iPad,” according to the e-mail. “Consider design distinguishability for the items demanded by Google while maintaining the current design, and in regards to each carrier’s demands.”

I think that's pretty strong evidence coming from Google. Pretty much the nail in the coffin.
post #123 of 185
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Originally Posted by PunkX 1 View Post

Simple. Samsung had similar designs pre-iPhone.

Also, Samsung's never patented crap like "rounded edges"

Companies steal/copy/take inspiration from others. Most don't patent crap and sue others left right and center JUST to be Alpha and Omega.
Not in regard to software they didn't. And aside from the F700's shape (rounded rectangle) they don't really have similar designs even for hardware.

The meme between Samsung execs and the comparison between the S1 and iPhone really nail it. On top of that, even Google said to them it looks too much like the iPhone. I don't know whether the amount was fair or not but I do believe Apple winning is.
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What I don't understand is, why can't Samsung just come clean and admit their mistake. It's what a responsible company would do. They got caught red handed, at least man up and admit your mistake.
Then they would lose the appeal for sure. I don't think any company would own up if there's still a chance they can make a comeback.
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post #124 of 185
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Can you explain how Samsung has a chance for a appeal? Let alone the Supreme Court?
This is what Google said in emails to Samsung's design team, (source)
I think that's pretty strong evidence coming from Google. Pretty much the nail in the coffin.

Its their lawful right to get 1 appeal in the case.
post #125 of 185
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Can you explain how Samsung has a chance for a appeal? Let alone the Supreme Court?
This is what Google said in emails to Samsung's design team, (source)
I think that's pretty strong evidence coming from Google. Pretty much the nail in the coffin.

That's pretty damming. Even after being warned by Google to stop copying Apple, they still ignore it. What else would you expect from the most corrupt company in Asia that buys off judges, police, and politicians to get away with tax evasion, price fixing and copying dozens of companies over the past decade?
Edited by Nope oO - 8/27/12 at 12:28pm
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That's pretty damming. Even after being warned by Google to stop copying Apple, they still ignore it. What else would you expect from the most corrupt company in Asia that buys off judges, police, and politicians to get away with tax evasion and copying dozens of companies over the past decade?


You just described how most large corporations work. And IMO its a lot better than the crap Apple pulls.
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Wow, apple-samsung case was supposed mistrial!
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Finally it comes to USA Corporate nationalism. It was about time. USA 1 - rest of the world 0. Next please.
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Finally it comes to USA Corporate nationalism. It was about time. USA 1 - rest of the world 0. Next please.
Mate, Now that's a very intelligent response. tongue.gif
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That's pretty damming. Even after being warned by Google to stop copying Apple, they still ignore it. What else would you expect from the most corrupt company in Asia that buys off judges, police, and politicians to get away with tax evasion and copying dozens of companies over the past decade?

Do you know where 2/3's of Apple's $100 Billion CASH is right now?

Answer: Not in the U.S. But in offshore bank accounts, so they don't have to pay tax in the U.S.
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That money will be pulled from Apple's U.S. cash holdings, though over $60 billion of its cash balance is being held overseas. During a conference call with analysts addressing Apple's plans for its cash balance, Apple CFO Peter Oppenheimer criticized U.S. tax law, noting that repatriating the cash would, due to United States corporate lax law, come at a huge cost to the company.

"Repatriating cash from overseas would result in significant tax consequences under U.S. law," Oppenheimer said. "We have expressed our views to Congress and the administration. We think current tax laws provide significant disincentive to U.S. companies that would otherwise repatriate the significant cash they have on hand."

The Wall Street Journal points out that, according to Bernstein Research, Apple's international tax rate is less than 3 percent, while repatriating its cash would send Apple's international tax rate soaring to between 13 and 25 percent.[
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/19/apple-announces-plans-for-cash_n_1362212.html

Once again, the very thing you accuse Samsung of, is what Apple does best.

How Apple Sidesteps Billions of Dollars in taxes:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/29/business/apples-tax-strategy-aims-at-low-tax-states-and-nations.html?pagewanted=all
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Apple, for instance, was among the first tech companies to designate overseas salespeople in high-tax countries in a manner that allowed them to sell on behalf of low-tax subsidiaries on other continents, sidestepping income taxes, according to former executives. Apple was a pioneer of an accounting technique known as the “Double Irish With a Dutch Sandwich,” which reduces taxes by routing profits through Irish subsidiaries and the Netherlands and then to the Caribbean.

Apple, the richest company in the U.S. is not helping the U.S. economy with its profits. This is the company you love and support, good job. thumb.gif
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