Originally Posted by BeerPowered
Originally Posted by Foolsmasher
Samsung is terrible. Copy most popular phone, use another company's OS, modify it to look even more like iOS. Real innovative right there.
Apple did just that. How can you fault another company for doing the samething.
The Palm OS existed long before iOS. Apple took the palm OS and modified it to fit their style and called it the iOS.
Without the Palm OS, iOS and Andorid wouldn't exist.
This was the best I could find for a video demonstration
of Palm OS 6. It's not much of a video but like I said, best I could find. I'll agree that without it things may be a lot different than they are now, but not that Apple "took the Palm OS and modified it to fit their style". iOS is drastically different from Palm OS.
Originally Posted by CaptainChaos
I'll leave you with a post I made in another thread.
Disregarding all the awesome processors, screen tech, and various components that Samsung make that are used in millions of non Samsung devices. The funny thing is if Apple releases a smaller iPad do you know who's trend they'll be following? I'll answer for you since you probably wont allow yourself to admit it. Samsung...
Calling Samsung out for not being innovative is one of the most foolish things you can say.
Actually they'll probably be following Amazon's trend or Google's trend, if anything. Samsung did have the first 7-inch tablet out, but the former two had it priced very competitively. Samsung's 7-inch tablet didn't sell so well IIRC.
Originally Posted by 2010rig
You really need me to link you to the patent of the "rectangular screen with rounded corners"? Just a quick Google search for ya.
Surely, you've been following the lawsuits and are aware of the patent in question. I am sure we have discussed it before.
Apple wants a monopoloy over rectangular screens with rounded corners.
If Apple had its way, no one else could enter the tablet and smartphone market, they've gone as far as suggest alternatives to Samsung.
Honestly, it doesn't matter to me that Apple has never invented anything, or that they have copied or stolen ideas, or that they've bought technologies which they then told the world they invented, and boy did they patented it to stifle competition.
The problem I have with Apple is that their whole foundation is based on copying and innovating existing ideas, yet, they had the audacity to abuse the broken patent system to patent a lot of the ideas they stole and copied. They have been suing a lot of Android manufacturers, most famously Samsung for "copying" them.
When your whole foundation is based on copying others' ideas, it's beyond hypocritical to sue others for copying you.
Perhaps Apple needs to go back to innovating, rather than litigating.
Perhaps they need to release more than 1 phone per year so they can better compete with other manufactureres who release several phones per year, and give their customers different choices.
Perhaps they need to move beyond a 3.5" screen ( which they are rumoured to do ), since that's where the market is headed.
We can debate all day long, about who came up with what first, the iPhone was a natural evolution of where the market was headed. Rectangular screen devices existed before the iPhone, and they will exist after the iPhone.
That's why I asked you, what has Apple EVER invented, and since the answer is NOTHING, they need to get off their high horse and quit suing people for the very thing they've always done.
The "rectangular screen with rounded corners" is part of a trade dress law suit, and not a patent. I'm aware of it, but I wanted you to give me the link so I know for certain what we're talking about. I suspected it was about trade dress.
But they have invented things. And they've innovated a lot. There's a big difference between "looking at others for inspiration" and more blatant copying like Samsung has done. I don't agree with all of Apple's law suits, but they do have a right to protect what they've made.
Trade dress exists to protect the products made by a company from being copied too closely. Again it's one thing to look to something for inspiration, but another to blatantly copy. I mean just look at one of these images from Samsung's re-evaluation report.
There's like a hundred of those or more covering almost every aspect of the iPhone's UI, for both the OS and stock apps. Have a browse of the document yourself. (For the record, Apple's alternative design suggestions for Samsung are ridiculous, save maybe for one or two.)