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to be honest, I think you'd be better off going "semi passive" in the case you selected originally.(FC8) meaning putting the cpu on the heatpipe supplied by the case and somehow supply some cooling air on the heatsink. (modding a slow spinning fan onto the heatsink side of the case) alternatively you can mod a slow spinning 120m fan (with air filter) on the top of the case blowing down over the CPU side to supply additional cooling to supplement the passive heatsink. either way it should work better then an NT07 enclosed in a case that has nearly no airflow. remember a heatsink doesn't make the heat disappear. the heat needs to be dissipated into the ambient air or it's just like putting a heatsink inside an oven. it won't cool anything.
I'd like to consider the FC8 still. Unfortunately it is double the cost of the Wesena. It also worries me that the block that is placed on the processor is fully anodized, although polishing it might not be difficult. It is also only compatible with certain motherboards based on CPU layout.
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hate to sound like an arse, but the laws of physics doesn't stop just because you cant afford it biggrin.gif whoever told you silence is cheap lied to you smile.gif as i mentioned. putting a NT07 in a chassis like that is not going to work any better then the stock intel cooler since there is no airflow in the case anyway... the heat will be trapped inside and the chassis will act like an oven. you can pay extra now, or you can pay when your system is fried from excessive thermal cycle. so it's really up to you when you want to pay up biggrin.gif chassis like the one you are looking at is designed for mobile / laptop chips. not full fledged desktop chips... so unless you decide to go that route, then you may want to reconsider your choices. the FC8 is at least designed for 65 watt chips. the Wesena is designed for MUCH less then that. (maybe 35 watt chips) I would strongly recommend you reconsider your choice since we know ivybridge is a hotter chip then sandybridge to begin with.
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Psyclum, you're making pretty brash assumptions here. It has an 80mm fan for intake so it can replace the full volume of the case pretty easily. There is enough ventilation for the CPU. The GPU on the other hand, does not get any ventilation and I'd suggest cutting a hole in the side for it. This is all based on the ITX5 by the way. People put full fledged i7 3770K chips in the Wesena case just fine. You should be fine using an NT07 with any chip. Especially if you're undervolting it.

The only issue, like I said before, is the GPU. Everything else should be fine.
     
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doh... my bad, i was thinking about the NT06 instead of the NT07 frown.gif was thinking if you had NT06 installed, there wouldn't be room for the 80mm fan... (hence no airflow at all) still tho... the NT07-1156 is practically a stock cooler... so there really isn't much gained from using that instead of the stock cooler. I would think a 2U heatpipe type cooler


would work better.

his decision to go with the ASUS board may be problematic in the long run since the VRM daughter board we block a good deal of the intake fan cooling power. anyway i can't see this case providing enough cooling for OCing anyway so the Asus board is a moot point.
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hate to sound like an arse, but the laws of physics doesn't stop just because you cant afford it biggrin.gif whoever told you silence is cheap lied to you smile.gif as i mentioned. putting a NT07 in a chassis like that is not going to work any better then the stock intel cooler since there is no airflow in the case anyway... the heat will be trapped inside and the chassis will act like an oven. you can pay extra now, or you can pay when your system is fried from excessive thermal cycle. so it's really up to you when you want to pay up biggrin.gif chassis like the one you are looking at is designed for mobile / laptop chips. not full fledged desktop chips... so unless you decide to go that route, then you may want to reconsider your choices. the FC8 is at least designed for 65 watt chips. the Wesena is designed for MUCH less then that. (maybe 35 watt chips) I would strongly recommend you reconsider your choice since we know ivybridge is a hotter chip then sandybridge to begin with.
I completely understand what you're saying, and I understand silence isn't cheap (unless you sacrifice power as well), hence the reason I decided not to go passive after all. The one review of this case I could find (Missing Remote) used a 65w processor, and although the 3570k is 77w, I've already stated that I intend to undervolt it, and not overclock. This should reduce the power draw (if even by a small margin), and in turn, reduce heat production. From what I understand, Ivy Bridge is only hotter than Sandy Bridge when voltage is increased. If it were hotter even at stock speeds/voltages, I would imagine the wattage rating would not have dropped from 95w on Sandy Bridge, to only 77w on Ivy Bridge 'equivalents'.

As armourcore9brker mentioned, the case does have an 80mm fan included, and although it may not seem like much, it, along with the numerous vent holes, make it further from the oven picture you are painting.

On the use of the ASUS board, after reading through the forums, and speaking with Jocelyn about the two, I've decided to go with the ASRock board anyways, so the VRM board shouldn't be an issue.

On using a 2U heatpipe cooler, since I'd be going with the ASRock, I'm limited to what CPU coolers will fit without them blocking the PCI slot. I understand that the NT07 is not much more than the stock cooler, but it does look nicer, and I believe is more quiet than the stock cooler, while providing at least the same amount of heat dissipation, if not slightly better.
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