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Negative on that. The retina screen is awesome, far better than any Windows notebooks out now.
What are you saying? The point of having a high resolution is to see all the minuscule details. Photos look beautiful on the retina display, much better than my old Sony Vaio Z and SZ. I'm glad Apple is pushing the industry to adopt high resolution displays on notebooks.

Perhaps it's also better for it's color, and glass. I personally like the color and fact that Apple uses glass (or plastic if it's high-quality). I've personally used Retina and wasn't all that impressed over my Vaio SA, aside from just the color and finish.

My point is if the resolution is TOO high, things will get lost as the minuscule details will be smaller than your eye can perceive. They can push it all they want, but that doesn't mean (as I said before) graphic manufacturers are ready to play along well. I mean, 1440p is about 60% more pixel space. 1600p is practically double.

1920 x 1080 = 2,073,600 pixels
2560 x 1440 = 3,686,400 pixels
2560 x 1600 = 4,096,000 pixels

I don't see graphics manufacturers cutting themselves short to make cards perform well on this resolution for cheap.
Edited by Sazexa - 8/27/12 at 10:38am
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Nevermind, it was me that said "I hope the 13" MBP will get the iPad 3's screen."
I think it will be .5-.6" as the 13" Samsung Series 9 can get 7h of battery life.
Do you know if the iMacs have a pass-through so that you can connect an external computer?
I wonder how viable it would be to buy an iMac with that resolution, just to use as a monitor. biggrin.gif

I bet $1,000,000 that as soon as the iMac line makes the move to retina that the thunderbolt display will as well. So you really could have a retina display no problem.
Edited by The_0ctogon - 8/27/12 at 10:31am
    
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The sooner insanely high DPI screens come out, the sooner I'll be kicking myself in the ass for getting my 27" 2560x1440p crossover... but it's a good thing, and that's simply because it means that the next wave of korean $300 monitors can be 4k or something ridiculous.
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I don't remember any Thunderbolt external enclosures yet. I believe MSi was making one though.
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Desktop replacement. Thunderbolt is my port of choice, as I plan on grabbing a MSI GUS II or an equivalent product. Such a solution will allow me to retire my desktop and notebook simultaneously

The only external GPU solutions readily available at the moment are DIY or cost-prohibitive.

I thought so, although I believe at best you can either use an mSATA, Expresscard, or USB 2.0 (or it was 3.0) connection.
Edited by HybridCore - 8/27/12 at 11:13am
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I think the resolutions they put on these are absolutely ridiculous. I've got 20/20 vision, and at normal usage distance from my 13.3" laptop which is 1600 x 900, I have to really focus and stare to see individual pixels.

I've used 1080p and I can discern the pixels---though with contacts my vision is 20/10

20/10 with contacts? Why do you even need them? Must be nice contacts though, most people cannot achieve 20/10 regardless. I have about 20/10 at the moment, but if genetics mean anything I'll start to need glasses/contacts in about 10 years. Maybe at that point I'll get contacts that'll keep me at 20/10. wink.gif

On-topic: The different "retina" offers is noticeable even if you cannot distinguish an individual pixel among a group of others. It's difficult to describe it without seeing it, I thought that the retina laptops would be a complete waste, but seeing is believing, I can honestly say I'd like to have that kind of display (although preferably on a PC, not Mac).
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post #46 of 58
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Like I said above. 4k+, if implemented correctly, and they fix any bandwidth issues, would be good for larger TV's and such.

aka pipe dream. If a lot of broadcasters aren't even willing to broadcast in 1080p, why would you think they'd do anything bigger?
Also yes there would be higher resolutions out there, but as with higher resolutions today, will only cater to a niche market.
That said the iPad 3 has a 2048 x 1536 resolution.

Also there are notebooks out there that have better screens - the Razer Blade for one. But great screen and long battery life? None compare to the MacBook.
I'm talking straight facts, no fanboism / anti-fanboism. I don't care about brands really for specs, only reliability.

All a 'retina display' is is a type of LG-made IPS screen.
Edited by chinesekiwi - 8/27/12 at 12:40pm
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I just got the 15" Retina MBP two weeks ago, the screen really is ridiculously good. It's not just the high resolution (which is noticeable, every other notebook just looks blurry in comparison but the resolution on its own isn't necessarily a must-have feature) but the fact that it's an IPS panel that really made me want to have it. I don't sit still very often, I'm always shifting around and with every other notebook I've ever had I would always have to adjust the angle of the screen but with an IPS display I never have to move it, colors look exactly the same from almost anywhere in front of the screen and it's excellent for showing pictures/video to a small group of people.

I had been waiting for the 13" I knew would eventually come out, but I'm happy with my 15" my previous notebook was a 13" Air and I like having the extra screen real estate. Sometimes I scale the screen to 1920x1200 to really pack a ton of stuff on there.
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Perhaps it's also better for it's color, and glass. I personally like the color and fact that Apple uses glass (or plastic if it's high-quality). I've personally used Retina and wasn't all that impressed over my Vaio SA, aside from just the color and finish.
My point is if the resolution is TOO high, things will get lost as the minuscule details will be smaller than your eye can perceive. They can push it all they want, but that doesn't mean (as I said before) graphic manufacturers are ready to play along well. I mean, 1440p is about 60% more pixel space. 1600p is practically double.
1920 x 1080 = 2,073,600 pixels
2560 x 1440 = 3,686,400 pixels
2560 x 1600 = 4,096,000 pixels
I don't see graphics manufacturers cutting themselves short to make cards perform well on this resolution for cheap.

The thing is, you're not supposed to "see it" you feel it, literally.

After using a retina display for some time, you'll realise that your eyes take allot longer to get tired and you develop less headaches. I recently switched from the disappointing Gtab 10.1 to the Ipad 3 and the difference is dramatic.

It's not magic, it's true!
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I keep thinking... if they are pushing 1600p+ on these displays, why aren't they pushing that kind of resolution on more affordable desktop monitors, where workstations are many times more powerful. There's only so much you can do on a sub-17" screen, even if the color and sharpness is absolutely stunning.

Just my thoughts. I would like monitors at that resolution that don't cost $1k (Catleaps don't count, they don't offer the same color gamut. Other then that, that's the price we should be paying for these panels, IMO).
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Do you know the rMBP can actually support three external displays? Two via Thunderbolt and one via HDMI. I saw one hooked up and it looked crazy. That's a lot of screen for a small laptop.
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Nevermind, it was me that said "I hope the 13" MBP will get the iPad 3's screen."

Do you know if the iMacs have a pass-through so that you can connect an external computer?

I wonder how viable it would be to buy an iMac with that resolution, just to use as a monitor. biggrin.gif
You can but the iMac will need to be running for it to work, and you need Thunderbolt with Thunderbolt-equipped Macs.
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