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Direct Contact pipes close together does not define "better." A number of "not direct pipe contact" heat sinks outperform heatsinks that have " direct contact close together" design.
This is not magic, done right it works well. Done right solid bases do excellent heat transfer.
The 212 EVO seems to outperform the 212+, how much of this is fan change or product design I do not know
Just get tired of people accepting marketing "hey, look what we did" as an automatic performance gain. I suspect it is easier to manufacture direct contact bases than "traditional" solid/soldered bases.
Heat transfer doesn't care if the pipes are in contact.

IMO they just took a step backwards.

Many people have determined the EVO outperforms the 212+. Another important thing to note is that the blademaster CM fans they put on 212+ IMO is better than the one on the EVO. I have done testing along with others. People that I have talked to that have beta tested the t4 say it doesnt perform better than the EVO. And is on par with 212+ but smaller and easier to work with.
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post #72 of 87
The EVO is reputed to outperform the 212+ using a quieter fan.
Personally still using 212+ as a "bang for buck" excellent choice. If I need or want more cooling or a different size I usually go with something interesting on sale. Bought a bunch of 212+ on sale under $20 each, lol.
I expect I will try the EVO, or the T4 if that replaces it. After I use up my stock of 212+. Just feel overall design, and fan quality, are more important than "direct contact."
Looking at review sites direct 212+ vs EVO is rare, and often there are hardware changes,
I think the Thermalright True Spirit (120) is better, but again, can not make a one to one comparison.

http://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-100700529-True-Spirit-120/dp/B005MSOH7C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1350075647&sr=8-1&keywords=thermalright

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/display/coolermaster-hyper-212-evo_5.html

http://rigmods.com/wp/blog/thermalright-true-spirit-120-review-2/

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/11/17/thermalright_true_spirit_cpu_air_cooler_review

Anyway the True is not Direct Contact Heat Pipe and does very well and quiet. costs more at the moment "True."
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I dont know how you can get much quieter than the 212+! I have yet to hear it haha. My 670 gets quite loud...Next loudest thing is my 4x (3x 120mm, 1x 200mm) case fans running at medium speed..They make some noise, but not much. Nothing sounds more like a jet engine than my 670...
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I dont know how you can get much quieter than the 212+! I have yet to hear it haha. My 670 gets quite loud...Next loudest thing is my 4x (3x 120mm, 1x 200mm) case fans running at medium speed..They make some noise, but not much. Nothing sounds more like a jet engine than my 670...

I want the H100.
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I want the H100.
I'm getting the h80 since I can't fit the dual fan system of the h100. Just gotta hope you don't get a bad or noisy pump or fan
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post #76 of 87
I like my evo, I like how this one spreads the heatpipes out more but I'm not sure that would be best or not, only tests would reveal how the airflow change affects how well it cools.

Direct contact not being better? I could see how a better design in a cooler would make a plate design outperform a direct contact design, but if all else were the same I would think the quickest and most conductive route (direct contact with copper, an excellent thermal conductor) would be better. If that wasn't in question my apologies.
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My point is "direct contact " is not automatically better. Execution and over all design matter.
I do not hear the 212+, but I have read complaints.

I am saying nothing against the EVO, it works very well by all reports, and at an excellent price.

Just bothers me when " direct heat pipe contact" is declared "the" reason for superiority.
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ah, yes it shouldn't be the only thing considered for sure. I was looking at plenty of coolers (NZXT Havik I believe) that do as good or better than the evo, no direct contact. I was hoping with the next revision they would, though. if coolers keep getting better it's going to make overclocking even easier. smile.gif
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Nice. How does it stack compared to the hyper 612?

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It's about the size of the 212+, but has corrugated fins, and as you see the heat pipes are staggered in such a way to promote better cooling efficiency.

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No I meant 612 on purpose.

I have no idea what a 612 is and I lol'd at this
    
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ah, yes it shouldn't be the only thing considered for sure. I was looking at plenty of coolers (NZXT Havik I believe) that do as good or better than the evo, no direct contact. I was hoping with the next revision they would, though. if coolers keep getting better it's going to make overclocking even easier. smile.gif

The Havik is a LOT better, just two degrees behind the NH-D14 according to TTL.
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