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I'm actually curious to know what Pixar uses for hardware. If you know.
I don't remember what hardware they run, I was just giving him an example, to ease his understanding. Wired did a story on the production of Toy Story 3 maybe a year ago, which is where I remember reading about it. Each render took 11 hours per frame or something like that.
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Oh the heat... (or do those not run that hot? I haven't looked in a while) Anyways, still really badass.

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They aren't as cool as 104 chips but they're still decent.

I don't know why everyone thinks 7970 runs hot as compared to 680.

Yes it consumes more power, but power is not equal to heat.

TPU numbers are shown below for comparison:

7970:
9QQHWB.jpg

680:
Q8B0JC.jpg
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I don't know why everyone thinks 7970 runs hot as compared to 680.
Yes it consumes more power, but power is not equal to heat.
TPU numbers are shown below for comparison:
7970:
9QQHWB.jpg
680:
Q8B0JC.jpg

I was actually stating that an 8 card rig with 0 space in between them, idc what card that is its gonna bake after a while in those conditions.
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They're referring to completely different cracking algorithms. No where does the article state that and Tahiti XT is nowhere near 4x faster than GF100 in compute... It's not even twice as fast.
GK104 is not compute-oriented Kepler, GK110 is, and it will be dramatically faster than Tahiti, especially in FP64 workloads.

I don't think they were different algorithms,and I didn't say it was 4 times faster. I said it's better than Kepler(GK104), and GK110 at this point,is a myth. You have have no basis to say GK110 will be dramatically faster than Tahiti.Even if it is,it will likely cost a lot more, and it likely will be compared to AMD's next gen anyways. Bottom line is Tahiti was first to market,compares in gaming and price, and blows away the current Kepler in compute.
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I don't think they were different algorithms,and I didn't say it was 4 times faster. I said it's better than Kepler(GK104), and GK110 at this point,is a myth. You have have no basis to say GK110 will be dramatically faster than Tahiti.Even if it is,it will likely cost a lot more, and it likely will be compared to AMD's next gen anyways. Bottom line is Tahiti was first to market,compares in gaming and price, and blows away the current Kepler in compute.

http://www.nvidia.com/content/PDF/kepler/NVIDIA-Kepler-GK110-Architecture-Whitepaper.pdf
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I don't think they were different algorithms,and I didn't say it was 4 times faster. I said it's better than Kepler(GK104), and GK110 at this point,is a myth. You have have no basis to say GK110 will be dramatically faster than Tahiti.Even if it is,it will likely cost a lot more, and it likely will be compared to AMD's next gen anyways. Bottom line is Tahiti was first to market,compares in gaming and price, and blows away the current Kepler in compute.
Products A and B are both primarily for Activity 1. A and B are both capable of Activity 2 as well though. Products C and D are designed specifically for Activity 2. The company that makes product A also makes product C, and they found that the newest product A would negatively impact the sales of product C, so they gimped product A's ability to do Activity 2 to prevent this. Heralds of product B scream from the mountaintops that Product B > Product A at Activity 2 while only briefly mentioning Activity 1....

I don't get it. You'll also remember that 480s are NOT Kepler, they're not even refined Fermis.... The current Keplers were purposely handcuffed in workstation capabilities, don't assume to know how tight the handcuffs really are.

That said, glad to see AMD getting into this market. The competition is needed, I just hope the GK110 doesn't make AMD have a second high-end market where they field a "bulldozer".
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That's all well and good,but untill they actually release one,no one knows what it can do.
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I don't think they were different algorithms,and I didn't say it was 4 times faster. I said it's better than Kepler(GK104), and GK110 at this point,is a myth. You have have no basis to say GK110 will be dramatically faster than Tahiti.Even if it is,it will likely cost a lot more, and it likely will be compared to AMD's next gen anyways. Bottom line is Tahiti was first to market,compares in gaming and price, and blows away the current Kepler in compute.
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I don't get it. You'll also remember that 480s are NOT Kepler, they're not even refined Fermis.... The current Keplers were purposely handcuffed in workstation capabilities, don't assume to know how tight the handcuffs really are.

That said, glad to see AMD getting into this market. The competition is needed, I just hope the GK110 doesn't make AMD have a second high-end market where they field a "bulldozer".

Yeah, kepler is much better architecture for work station but it fall's behind due to drivers.
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In that article you linked,it states a rig with quad(4) GTX 480's can process about 6.2 billion password combinations a second.
A single 7970 can process about 8.2 billion. This is why GCN is so far superior to Kepler it's not even close. Compute is where the money is at.

And in real supercomputer tasks GCN takes several lifes to complete it.
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And in real supercomputer tasks GCN takes several lifes to complete it.

As opposed to fake tasks of brute-forcing passwords rolleyes.gif

Only reason Nvidia is more used for supercomputers, is that given the choice (between CUDA and OpenCL), a lot of universities, research groups, investment bankers etc. use CUDA. Raw OpenCL GPU compute performance, 7970 is faster than a 680.
 
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