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You can't boot off the backup drive directly. You can boot off the boot CD and restore back to a new/fixed drive. and why only a 320GB drive? did your budget get eliminated?
 
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post #42 of 48
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The budget is the same, he just doesnt need more then 320. He only uses 30 gb of his current hdd and doesnt plan on using much more aside from the extra 18.5 gb Win7 uses over xp so he decided 320 would be enough for all his future needs

Im still waiting on him to decide what to do, this projects been set aside for now. Hes focused on getting a waste oil boiler set-up going before we run out of places to store waste oil ( we also have 3 waste oil furnaces in the bays) Its been so mild the past few winters we have an abundance of waste oil so the boiler will heat hot water all year and heat the office in winter and save money on the heating bill and use up some of the excessive oil.
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post #43 of 48
Another vote here for an SSD as primary drive with a mechy backup drive. Just use the win-pro built in backup. Build a partition on the mechy drive with enough room to fully backup the SSD. You can set up the remaining space on that extra drive as a storage area for whetever.

It would be pretty hard to pick a CPU that wouldn't work perfectly fine for this rig for years to come. The Internet, media quality associated, compression algorithms and such, are not apt to make any remarkable changes in the coming decade as far as computer resource demands are concerned. We're still waiting for the utlra-portable class of new computing to "catch up" with the current demands of the Internet.

An APU could be a fine approach for this machine if it is ever anticipated to need more than the glancing blow worth of GPU power that you get from intel HD and HD 2000 iGPUs in the same price class. Otherwise, there's not much harm in taking the build either direction (AMD or intel). I don't see a reason to be looking at CPU class over $150 here, and to be honest, would say that the sweet spot is probably in the $75-125 range for this build.

If it were me personally building this for the boss, I would just ask him/her what CPU brand he wants, because the minor differences in the performance of the machine for the intended purposes are not what will matter. What will matter, is that, if you choose a CPU brand perceived by the boss to be "the dark side," then every time there is a problem with that computer, he's going to blame the builders choice to go with the "wrong CPU." I'd rather not have to worry about that.

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post #44 of 48
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I hate to do this to everyone, but my boss has now decided not to build a pc for now. Other things came up and its moved to the back burner until his current pc gives up the ghost. Thank you for all the help and suggestions and im sorry he didnt buy anything .
The main rig
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The Wife's Rig
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minecraft box
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ocz vertex 4 256 gb ssd Western Digital cavier green hdd 1tb Sea Gate 1.5 tb hdd Samsung External Blue Ray Writer 
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i5 3570k @ 4.5 ghz Asus Maximus IV Gene-z68 Evga NVIDIA GTX 780 Classified 8 gb Samsung "Wonder Ram" @ 2133 mhz 
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Intel Core 2 Quad Q9400 GIGABYTE GA-G41MT-S2PT G41 + ICH7 Micro ATX  GTX 670 FTW 8 GB DDR3 
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500 gb seagate cd burner/ dvd player H80 in push pull Windows 7 
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The Wife's Rig
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minecraft box
(9 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7 3770K at 4.5ghz Asus z77 Maximus V Formula evga NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 Classified Samsung "Wonder Ram" 8gb (4x2) @ 1866 mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
ocz vertex 4 256 gb ssd Western Digital cavier green hdd 1tb Sea Gate 1.5 tb hdd Samsung External Blue Ray Writer 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
Xspc rasa 750 rx360 with 3 sp120s Bitfinex Fan Controller Windows 8.1 Professional Acer 23 inch led 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G510 Seasonic 750 watt fully modular Black Nzxt Switch 810 Razor Deathadder 
OtherOther
Asus mpcie wifi adaptor Azio usb Bluetooth dongle 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 3570k @ 4.5 ghz Asus Maximus IV Gene-z68 Evga NVIDIA GTX 780 Classified 8 gb Samsung "Wonder Ram" @ 2133 mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
320 gb western digital intel ssd LG Blue Ray Drive Corsair H100 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
4 stock corsair fans on h100 Windows 8.1 Acer 23 inch led Logitech G510 
PowerCaseMouse
Rosewill Capstone 750 watt NZXT Switch 810 black Razor Deathadder 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9400 GIGABYTE GA-G41MT-S2PT G41 + ICH7 Micro ATX  GTX 670 FTW 8 GB DDR3 
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500 gb seagate cd burner/ dvd player H80 in push pull Windows 7 
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Software RAID for Linux,RAID controller for Windows,do not deviate.No RAID 0 anywhere on a business machine.
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Originally Posted by labnjab View Post

I hate to do this to everyone, but my boss has now decided not to build a pc for now. Other things came up and its moved to the back burner until his current pc gives up the ghost. Thank you for all the help and suggestions and im sorry he didnt buy anything .
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It is probably a good time for you to start putting out the "feelers",First your project gets canceled,next you lose your office,and then........
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My boss is looking to build a new pc to replace his pentium 4. He doesnt game or overclock, so he just needs it for office work with light multitasking. He wants dual screens and a raid setup for backup and wants it to last 5-10 years
Im thinking an i3 with 8 gb ram would be more then enough, but i dont know much about i3s or raid setups. Ill let you know the budget soon but he doesnt want to go too crazy on price and he will probably buy from new egg. Thank you for any help.

FYI RAID does not equal backups....

He is better off just buying a cheap PC pre built
post #48 of 48
I would say go with an i7 3770K OR wait 2 weeks and go with one of the new Piledriver FX 8 Core chips. By the time he upgrades the extreme processors will have 24 cores lololol.
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