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I was young and naieve when I bought myself my first pc.. An Emachines was all I could afford, so an Emachines was what I got.. Boy did I not know what I was letting myself in for.. Three years on, and a motorbike later, I've finally got enough to build a "proper" machine -

My budget is about 650-700 Euros (Roughly 800$ or 435 Quid) so it's nothing too Fancy - I'm looking for something vaguely futureproof, something that'll run DoD / Cs 1.6 at more than 20 FPS @ 800x600, and god knows that might actually let me play Cs:s.. This'll be the rig I'm taking to Uni next year, so multitasking is a plus, but hey.. The most important factor is that I want something to get an introduction to OCing with

So far theese are the main things that have been catching my eye, though suggestions/corrections are appreciated..

Processor:
Opteron 165 / SD 3700+
- Both seem viable options, yet the 165 would be the most futureproof?

MotherBoard: - Preferably Sli Capable
A8N series? - Open for suggestions here~

RAM:
Preferably will go for a 1gb stick at the moment, and put in a second later on~ What makes/stats should I be looking out for?

Gfx Card:
No idea as to these.. nVidia or ATI.. I've heard good reviews about ATI's 1800 series, but advice would be appreciated. Is it worth doing the same as with the RAM - Buying one card in the view of getting a second later on and bridging them?

CPU Heatsink:
I'm rather smitten with the Tuniq Tower, even moreso as you can now finally get them in Euroupe, yet don't know wether the TTBT would work better with the case I've been looking at.

Case:
I've liked the look of Thermaltake's Tsunami for a long while, The thing is, as it has a sidemounted fan, will it affect the airflow as regards the Tuniq?

Any alternative builds you feel like throwing together (even if they are *gah* Intel ) , pointers, recomendations, or even just links to good european outlets for parts would be greatly appreciated

Cheers,
~Gryph
    
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Can you link me to the site you would be ordering from?
    
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ok first, great cpu choices.
now

the board...
it sucks i wish i knew this before i shelled out $120 for it.
the cpu voltage stops at 1.6V if your lucky, the ram stops at 3V, should be no problem till you use BH-5 ram.

the ram...
1GB sticks tend to be horridly slow in the timing area
sure you can get a stick that runs at 500mhz but with 3-4-4-8 timings it wont be much to brag about

the video card...
if your getting an sli board get an sli video card it helps later on down the line

o yea dont forget to get a better cpu cooler, for newbies i recommend the coolermaster hyper48 with simple wire jumping you can run it full speed and cool the hottest of cpu's

have fun overclocking
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HI and WELCOME to the sight
Some links to sights would help us recommend what is available to you because not only of availability but to see what the costs there are.
    
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I'd also like to mention that I'd need to factor in a Power Supply, and HDD, as I'm dubious as to the survivability the spares I have kicking about the place~

I also need to be looking at a screen, though the cash is already set aside for that so thankfully I don't need to chip into the budget.

I've no particuar site in mind for parts, at the moment I'm looking for the most reccomended setup~ However, I'll more than likely end up on
http://appinformatica.com/ <- Spanish site - Only decent store in spain.
http://www.scan.co.uk/
or
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/

Any help as to a Motherboard, PSU, Gfx card and RAM would be most appreciated~

Cheers,
~Gryph
    
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for a PSU, you should get an OCZ PowerXStream. I would recommend the 700W version. For HDDs, I have found Seagates to be the most reliable for me and they'd actually survived drop kicks from little cousins(somehow they thought it was meant to be kicked...)

SLI Capable Mobo: Asus CROSSHAIR nForce 590 SLi (Socket AM2) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard (MB-166-AS) I found this off of the Overclockers UK site. Its 135 pounds though... For Graphics Card, if you're going to go Nvidia, I'd tell you to get a 7950GT. For RAM, if you intend to OC, I'd get some DDR2-800, preferably some brand like Corsair or Crucial
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Let's see what I can do for you..

San Diego 3700+ (OEM) (3rd one down)

£61

DFI Ultra-D (One up from the bottom)

£64. I've heard good things about the Ultra-D's but I'm not sure if there are more than 1 type.. but for £64, it's a steal.

OcUK Value PC3200 RAM (2x512mb) (2nd down)

£76. If you want to upgrade to 2gb in the future, you can sell this kit and buy a 2gb kit, since AMD's don't really go well with 4 sticks of RAM.

Tuniq Tower

£35

Either two of the top 2 cases

£35

Hiper 580w Type-R NON-MODULAR

£53

Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 200GB (3rd down)

£55

nVidia 7300GT w/GDDR3 (last one right at the bottom)

£59

Total: £438 including VAT.

Conclusion: Not a bad build for today's games, should run CS: S decently with decent settings. If you come across some more money, either upgrade the GPU to a 7600GT or go for 2gb RAM.
    
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post #8 of 10
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ £54.04 Including VAT
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Produ...oductID=401096

MSI K9A Platinum £82.02 Including VAT
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatal...e_MSI_205.html

Crucial 1GB (2x512MB) DDR2 PC2-5300C3 £99.86 Including VAT
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatal...ot_Memory.html

XFX 7600GT £95.18 Including VAT
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Produ...oductID=470915

Western Digital Caviar 160GB £42.29 Including VAT
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatal...ital_SATA.html

OCZ GameXStream 600w £82.24 Including VAT
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatal...e_OCZ_241.html

Total: £460-ish

You could try finding some of these here in the sales section or on ebay to reduce the total price but that is the best rig you could put together while providing an upgrade path and allowing some OCing
    
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post #9 of 10
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First off, cheers to Boredom and Adam114 for giving me a nudge in the right direction~

There have been a couple of developments, the first of which being the heap of junk known as "The Emachines pc" managed to fry itself (Power supply went, taking the mobo with it.) Thus, my only form of communication at present is a 800mhz coppermine celron running 'Nix.. A new machine is needed rather sharpish.

The more positive one is that my budget's been almost doubled to 1100 Euros (750gbp / 1400$) so I'm seriously considering a C2D build~ I'm going to post a topic in the relative section with a more complete list of parts, yet is there really anything AMD has to offer at present, as much as I hate to admit, that'll come anywhere close to rivaling?

Suggestions as to either are very much appreciatred~

Cheers,
Gryph~
    
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Nothing from AMD until Q2/Q3'07 =/
    
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