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thats about the time ill be buying a gpu for my next build smile.gif lucky me

yeah, we can enjoy our current card longer
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Honestly, I believe that the current generation of GPU's has a lot more life in it than one year... Less than 1% of people use displays larger than 1920x1080/1200, the vast majority of titles are console ports, and the so-called "system crushing" games are simply not well-coded. It's time that the software get a boost, because there is no reason that Crysis2 should be able to run at 70-80fps on a GTX670 FTW with a decent OC while Metro2033 struggles around 30fps. It's not an issue of VRAM, it's not an issue of the card not being powerful enough (for what, a 3 year old title?), it's an issue of TERRIBLE SOFTWARE OPTIMIZATION! Sure, Metro 2033 doesn't look quite as good on an Xbox 360, but it does run very smooth on a system that is about as powerful as current-gen Smartphone! I understand that PC's need to run a LOT more in the background, but no one can tell me that there isn't an enormous difference in programming quality between two visually-equal games that have vastly-different performance....

I was agreeing with you up until this point, and then I realized you were more wrong than you ever thought possible. rolleyes.gif Pretty sure that the PS3 would make mince meat out of an iPhone 4S. tongue.gif

Also, yes I can tell you that there is "an enormous difference in programming quality between two visually-equal games that have vastly-different performance". Take Metro 2033 for example. People say it's poorly optimized, but no one has tested it on the same settings that people play it on the console. Pretty sure that it would run just as well, better even, on a PC. Consoles aren't DX11 capable yet, so you can't accurately compare those two unless it's at the same settings; I.E. a controlled environment.
     
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I've been upgrading air cooled GPUs like every 8 months since 2009. However this time around I'll be holding onto dual MSI 680 Lightnings with Aqua Computer full card water blocks until it can't reasonably power 27-inch gaming no more. No sense upgrading expensive water blocks every time for diminishing returns. It was different when I was air cooling, but now I have a reason to stick with with I have. Water cooling has changed everything on my upgrade-itis. That and my machine is at a decent level of awesome.
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post #64 of 87
I think this isn't a smart move from NV looking at last release? Just like with the HD7xxx and GTX6xx series? AMD will be able to release a few months before them taking away some costumers, improving their drivers earlier, lowering prices when NV finally releases, release a refresh?
    
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I thought the GK110 is for tesla cards only?
Don't buy into the desperate AMD fanboys that are trying to make it look like Nvidia won't put out a GK110 based GeForce. It'd be absolutely asinine of Nvidia not to put their less-than-perfect chips in their consumer line.
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I've been upgrading air cooled GPUs like every 8 months since 2009. However this time around I'll be holding onto dual MSI 680 Lightnings with Aqua Computer full card water blocks until it can't reasonably power 27-inch gaming no more. No sense upgrading expensive water blocks every time for diminishing returns. It was different when I was air cooling, but now I have a reason to stick with with I have. Water cooling has changed everything on my upgrade-itis. That and my machine is at a decent level of awesome.
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Passing on 7xx this time.

 

I will SLI my 670 and wait for Maxwell.

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is the gtx 780 different name for gtx 685? Or is that still due out in september-october 2012?
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So b4 all that dont you guys think it is about time for Nvidia release a PCIE version of ARM tegra 3 card? So it gets into the market let the software have a head start first b4 Maxwell come?
Never. Tegra 3 is a SoC. There's no need for all the additional logic (audio, image processor, HD decoder, etc) found on a Tegra for the desktop.

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Don't buy into the desperate AMD fanboys that are trying to make it look like Nvidia won't put out a GK110 based GeForce. It'd be absolutely asinine of Nvidia not to put their less-than-perfect chips in their consumer line.
Agreed.

The facts are that:
1) Nvidia's 28nm yields are still not that great.
2) Not every GK110 will qualify for Tesla/Quadro.
3) NVIDIA pays TSMC by wafer (and not by chip). Paying by wafer is cheaper if you can get more sellable chips from each.


That leaves plenty a number of GK110 that NVIDIA needs to sell or just simply throw out.
Edited by DuckieHo - 8/28/12 at 6:55am
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Agreed.
The facts are that:
1) 28nm yields are still not that great.
2) Not every GK110 will qualify for Tesla/Quadro.
3) NVIDIA pays TSMC by wafer (and not by chip). Paying by wafer is cheaper if you can get more sellable chips from each.
That leaves plenty a number of GK110 that NVIDIA needs to sell or just simply throw out.

I'd actually like to refute point #1: http://www.electronicsweekly.com/Articles/22/08/2012/54395/tsmc-28nm-yield-tops-80.htm

Now, Nvidia may still be having issues, but it seems like the major hangup is wafers per month.
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