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One of my accounts needs a new workstation computer. I whipped up something and I thought it would be good to have someone else look over my build.

The GFX card stays, I have used it in builds for this same company, and they love it. The computer will be running CS6, CorelDRAW, and a few other image suites. The budget is $1200, and it needs to have everything but a monitor. No local storage is needed other than OS drive.



I wanted to find a better case and PSU, but had to settle. I challenge you to find a better deal and case. The build came to: $1,257.87
Edited by mllrkllr88 - 8/27/12 at 6:56pm
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does it have to be newegg? can I whip up a similar build using micro centers to save you some extra cash? looks like a good base build, just minor tweaks I see that can be done. Like the SSD, I just got an email from slickdeals about a OCZ agility 4 256gb for $140, think it was through amazon. ram, I would suggest getting a 2x4gb kit at least, if not a 2x8gb kit. Makes multitasking much easier and isn't too much more expensive.

The processor is good, but for the $5 more I would get the K series and put a mild OC of 4.0-4.1 on there for them. Safe enough that no maintenance should be required and no aftermarker cooling.

PSU could be better, but I am biased against rosewill. again, if we can use other sites (like NCIX US) I know I can fine a 650w Seasonic/XFX/corsair for the same price if not cheaper.

Now I know you will hate me for this, but WHY do they need that firepro card? These low end workstation cards seem way overpriced for the performance. Just get a 7850 or even 7950 for cheaper and better performance. From the results I can find, the gaming cards perform better

http://community.futuremark.com/hardware/gpu

just check the desktop and workstation boxes and start looking. The firepros dont even start to appear on the board until AFTER the 560ti, 470, and 68xx cards. And that is for one of the higher end firepros. Just my 2cents.gif but seriously consider another card.

Until I can find out if we can use another site for parts I can't help more, but this should give you some good info to think about.

edit - just realized how much you were going to spend on ram. $100 for 8gb is outrageous. For the same price I can get you 16gb in a 2x8 set.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148545
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The processor is good, but for the $5 more I would get the K series and put a mild OC of 4.0-4.1 on there for them. Safe enough that no maintenance should be required and no aftermarker cooling.
PSU could be better, but I am biased against rosewill. again, if we can use other sites (like NCIX US) I know I can fine a 650w Seasonic/XFX/corsair for the same price if not cheaper.

Now I know you will hate me for this, but WHY do they need that firepro card? These low end workstation cards seem way overpriced for the performance. Just get a 7850 or even 7950 for cheaper and better performance. From the results I can find, the gaming cards perform better
http://community.futuremark.com/hardware/gpu
just check the desktop and workstation boxes and start looking. The firepros dont even start to appear on the board until AFTER the 560ti, 470, and 68xx cards. And that is for one of the higher end firepros. Just my 2cents.gif but seriously consider another card.
Until I can find out if we can use another site for parts I can't help more, but this should give you some good info to think about.
edit - just realized how much you were going to spend on ram. $100 for 8gb is outrageous. For the same price I can get you 16gb in a 2x8 set. I am guessing you didnt notice the quantity 2 for the ram:thumb:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148545

It can only be NewEgg, they get a discount because of some business sharing partnership they belong to.

There will be no overclocking done to the system per my contract with the company. Dude, I wont flame you too bad, but you obviously have never seen the results of a workstation card when compared to a gaming card, Its a *ing big difference. Oops, there is an error in the ram...I put a quantity of 2 on 4x2 sticks. So i will get 8 sticks for 4 slots.

BTW: I will be building 10 of thees computers for the company engineers.
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It can only be NewEgg, they get a discount because of some business sharing partnership they belong to.
There will be no overclocking done to the system per my contract with the company. Dude, I wont flame you too bad, but you obviously have never seen the results of a workstation card when compared to a gaming card, Its a *ing big difference. Yea, I didnt even really look at the ram yet, just threw it up there. It doesn't really matter if its 4X4 or 2x8, the company computers are one and done...they sell them after 2 years and never upgrade them.
Maybe I've never used a workstation card to its fullest potential but from my experience they really don't offer more then what a gaming card does. Again this is just from my experience through classes and I am going for EE/CE so we only lightly dabbled with apps and study mostly hardware so I admit I probably haven't pushed the cards to their max. But I have been playing around in PS, CAD, Rhino, and the likes since freshman year in high school and through my digital design classes and drafting/architecture classes I didn't see any real improvement compared to my PC. So again, thats my 2 cents from my experience using school computers which have workstation cards and using my own home built systems which run off of nVidia gaming cards.

guess the CPU will be just fine then, if they don't want the OC then don't waste the money. Other then looking into better/cheaper ram I would look for a different PSU unless you are really fond of the rosewills. Only ones I have heard good things from them are the HIVE series so maybe look into that.

Oh another thought, are they using a raid setup or any thing like that? If not then you may be able to knock $50 off the motherboard by looking into the ASrock pro 3 board. Should be running about $105 and is a z77. Unless they need extra ports or anything I think that should be sufficient for their needs.


on a side note, do they ever offer you their old systems for purchase? cuz if they are rebuilding every two years the old systems will still be very solid and would be worth considering... Also since you seem to be confident in your workstation cards, any chance you could link me to some benchmark results since all I have ever seen indicate that the gaming cards out perform them until you upgrade to a high end worksation (firepro/quadro) card coupled with a tesla card on the side. not saying youre wrong, but you seem to be very confident in their performance and I would just like to see some results so in the future I can know if a 6xx series would be better for a particular build over a firepro for certain individuals or vise versa.
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The ram is fixed.

Its not about benchmarks...Workstation cards are not about pushing more pixels faster as with gaming cards, its all about program compatibility small advantages that the firmware/drivers give you. According to the senior engineer, the gaming cards cant handle the tasks, and don't have the compatibilities of the workstation cards. Whatever the case is, if they explicitly ask for it, I will build a computer around it.
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increased the ssd size, and got rid of the fans. I don't see a need for them if everything will be run at stock for 2 years and then sold.

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