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For general users it's all about software and compatibility IMHO.

- Netflix runs on Windows, OS, Android and dozens of Linux based set top boxes (IE Roku, Blue Ray players) but not on native Linux.
- My public library book downloads work on Nook, Kindle, ANdroid, Apple and Windows but not Linux.
- Game makers support Win, OS, and a variety of consoles, I can't imagine if you built a game that runs on 5 platforms that Linux would have been that hard.
- My kids college insists on MS Office 10, a few years ago Open Office would have sufficed, but there are enough incompatibilities with LibreOffice now its not work risking.
- My wife wants Photo Shop and Quicken, not Gimp and whatever. These work on Windows and OS X but not Linux.

Software development can be pretty platform agnostic these days. You would think the millions of Linux users would represent a market for some of these products. I am not sure if it's a conspiracy amongst major software developers to lock Linux out, or rights management fears because the more sophisticated Linux user base will hack just about anything they get their hands on.

1. yes, I know it sucks. thats netflixs problem.
2.hm my kobo ereader works fine with books from our public library. I would put a little more work into this as I know its morew then possable
3.steam for linux coming soon
4&5 then no offense but the problem lies in your kid and wife not linux
post #62 of 77
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says 'anappleaday' just wanted to point that out.
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reported? i'm quivering. the mods are going to come get me for picking on the less intellagent! lachen.gif

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Ya'll want proof? How about the fact that OS X has a 1-2% share of the OS market?

one word- android. bang! osx and ios don't look as good market share wise now. not that market share says anything about how good something is. look at windows, everyone uses it but it sucks big time
post #63 of 77
I wonder how many lives Linux has this has been the 1000 time its been "killed" rolleyes.gif
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I'm confused. For years, and I mean years, people would say Microsoft killed Linux, but its still here. Now they're say Apple killed Linux. Quote me on this: Apple will shrink and Linux will still be around.
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wth.giflachen.gifthumb.gif
Ya'll want proof? How about the fact that OS X has a 1-2% share of the OS market? I mean, all computers with OS X are far more expensive (and the root of jealousy/envy which leads to hate) and the more well-off folks ("the only ones who can afford it", right OCN?) are typically more intelligent with their money and looking for good deals....yet they choose the more expensive computers (Macs). Why is that? Let me guess...they (the ones who make 5-10x more than most of you) are "idiots" or "sheeple" or whatever else you use to describe them in an effort to dismiss their freedom of choice.

Because rich people compare cars to find a good deal? How can something be a bad deal when is darn free? It's not a virus, it doesn't hinder devs because the makers feel that their OS should have drivers released ONLY by them a few months later, most of the servers on earth operate on Linux, and I dare you to find a way to make your new shiny OSX work flawlessly on an old 1.6GHz Celeron with 512bm of DDR2.

Still think it's putrid and only for the peasant who can't afford "the real thing"? Look at all those Android phones, guess where they come from (Hint: it ain't Apple, mate).
post #66 of 77
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wth.giflachen.gifthumb.gif
Ya'll want proof? How about the fact that OS X has a 1-2% share of the OS market? I mean, all computers with OS X are far more expensive (and the root of jealousy/envy which leads to hate) and the more well-off folks ("the only ones who can afford it", right OCN?) are typically more intelligent with their money and looking for good deals....yet they choose the more expensive computers (Macs). Why is that? Let me guess...they (the ones who make 5-10x more than most of you) are "idiots" or "sheeple" or whatever else you use to describe them in an effort to dismiss their freedom of choice.

You are aware that Linux is free and isn't sold, so looking at market share means zilch. The only market share it'll have is from that of OEM's including Ubuntu into their prebuilt netbooks, which isn't many. And most don't choose them as they don't know it's there.

Please, find me some proof.

Here's a few quick links for you just to get some numbers in a quick 10 second google search;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems#Servers

That list all Linux and Unix-Like ( OS X falling under the Unix-Like category ), but not being listed. Linux, BSD, Solaris are the only ones.

How about some random sites with random server statistics;

http://news.netcraft.com/

Out of all the hosts it lists, wheres the downtime you speak of that Linux has?

And what about this with a bit more charts on actual distros;

http://w3techs.com/technologies/details/os-linux/all/all


Honestly, googling for anything related to OS X servers just brings up the Mac Mini ( Server version ), and like 1-2 oddball OS X server hosts.

I'm sure if I go digging I'll find more evidence that says roughly the same thing.



By all means though if you can find some statistics with a reputable source that say otherwise, I'll shut up and not speak another word about servers.
Edited by Shrak - 8/28/12 at 7:13pm
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4&5 then no offense but the problem lies in your kid and wife not linux

4. Windows X versus OpenOffice/LibreOffice compatibility is not only my kids problem. I run Linux on my home desktop (except when I am gaming) and I run Win in the office. I have had numerous compatibility issues between Office 10 and Libre Office, most of which are documented on the LibreOffice web site claiming that MS did not implement the open standard correctly with workaround to go back to Office 2000 compatibility mode to be able to exchange files. My kid doesn't have time to screw with that, he needs to know he is turning in work his teachers will be able to read in the Office 10 format specified.

5. Gimp vs Photo Shop, maybe my wife's problem but Gimp seems to be a bit more difficult to work with to me too. As for Quicken versus open source equivalents, it comes down to interfaces to financial interfaces that work and are supported.
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post #68 of 77
This thread is about the OS used in personal desktops and laptops. No one cares about what OS the Facebook server is running because the experience will be the same for any client.

Also just a note: OS X 10.5+ is officially a Unix OS not a Unix-like OS.
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There was never really a linux desktop (at least in my opinion) linux seems to be lacking in terms of using as an everyday os. It is my operating system of choice when it comes to servers though it is so much more effective than a windows server.
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if games were on Linux I'd ditch Windows in a heartbeat

Windows is technically inferior to Linux in every way possible
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