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Yes I read the links, and looked through all of it.
This is the definition of ornamental design straight from the US Patent Office:
Basically, ornamental design can refer to an entire device, or just parts of it. The way to tell is that solid lines designate what is being patented, and broken up lines designate what is not.
So, based on the fact that the solid lines represent what is being patented, let's look at 087.
Figures 1-8 patent the rectangle shape with the rounded corners, with the circular button in the middle at the bottom of the phone.
Figures 9-16 patent the rectangle shape with rounded corners, and the screen making up almost all of the front.
Figures 17-24 patent the rectangle shape with rounded corners, and the horizontal speaker on top in the oval shape.
Figures 25-32 patent the rectangle shape with the rounded corners, screen, and circular button.
Figures 33-40 patent the rectangle shape with the rounded corners, speaker, and circular button.
Figures 41-48 patent the rectangle shape with the rounded corners, screen, and speaker.
D677- as I said patents the black front, but also the screen taking up the entire front of the device and the horizontal speaker on top.
305- you seem to be right here in that it patents the icons as well.
So for almost every touchscreen phone, they would be violating 087 based on figures 9-16. That's just ridiculous.
You also must not have heard of sciphones. My relatives got a sciphone. From a distance, it looks pretty much identical to an iphone. Disregarding different physical dimensions (which these patents don't cover anyways), the layout and icons are pretty much the same, much more similar than any Android phone. Why isn't Apple going after these blatant Chinese knockoffs?

Can you edit this to include a photo of the design in the patent?
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Can you edit this to include a photo of the design in the patent?

Google Bro!
Presenting the Sciphone from China

Edited by BeerPowered - 8/29/12 at 12:36pm
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Google Bro!
Presenting the Sciphone from China

lol. To strengthen his point.

obvious copycat is obvious.

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I love my old Nokia 6100. Screw smartphones, this has every feature i need from a phone and cost me nothing 8 years ago. Why should i spend hundreds of pounds, and then a contract on top of that for features i don't actually need? The only thing i wish it had is a camera, but i can get a much better standalone camera than a smartphone one.
I also have an android tablet now. Having the phone separate is just better. It means if i just need to take the phone, it's just a tiny one, which nobody will bother stealing, and if i need to use the internet, i can take the tablet too and use it's bigger screen. I much prefer doing this to any smartphone, Not only was it much cheaper, The old Nokia is way tougher than any of those are, and has better battery life.
As for the patent battle, Apple only did this because the knew samsung were trapped, and they could squeeze more money from them. Samsung could stop supplying their chips to apple, but that would loose them an awful lot more than a billion dollars.

I miss my old nokia with snake. I loved that blue little sucker and it survived pretty much everything - even being dunked in a toilet!
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Can you edit this to include a photo of the design in the patent?

Added some patent images.
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Here's an interesting post on SlashDot:
http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3081083&cid=41170401
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The forman, Velvin Hogan is, IMHO, a patent troll. His "invention" [google.com] is a TiVo, with options for a few minor and obvious additions (removable storage!, how inventive). He filed for the patent 3 years after TiVo first shipped.

Seems to me he's just an opportunistic *** hoping to make some money from some company who would rather pay than fight. Of course he wants to defend patents against invalidation due to obviousness or prior art. His would be worthless if that were easy to do.
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Here's an interesting post on SlashDot:
http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3081083&cid=41170401

Talk about conflict of interest. What a circus this entire trial is.
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LOL rotaries.

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You also must not have heard of sciphones. My relatives got a sciphone. From a distance, it looks pretty much identical to an iphone. Disregarding different physical dimensions (which these patents don't cover anyways), the layout and icons are pretty much the same, much more similar than any Android phone. Why isn't Apple going after these blatant Chinese knockoffs?

Probably because those Chinese knockoffs are usually pretty poor quality and no one really takes them seriously. Samsung on the other hand make very good products. The legitimate knockoffs are not that much of a threat. Now if the chiphone manufacturers were selling as many phones as Samsung, you bet Apples lawyers would be all over them.
Edited by RX7-2nr - 8/29/12 at 2:36pm
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Probably because those Chinese knockoffs are usually pretty poor quality and no one really takes them seriously. Samsung on the other hand make very good products. The legitimate knockoffs are not that much of a threat. Now if the chiphone manufacturers were selling as many phones as Samsung, you bet Apples would be all over them.

Exactly. Apple is trying to stifle the competition, not protect its intellectual property.
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Probably because those Chinese knockoffs are usually pretty poor quality and no one really takes them seriously. Samsung on the other hand make very good products. The legitimate knockoffs are not that much of a threat. Now if the chiphone manufacturers were selling as many phones as Samsung, you bet Apples lawyers would be all over them.

Not only that, but Chinese knock-offs tend to say in China.

If they tried to export them into the US they would be held as counterfeit goods, and investigated by customs.
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