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post #1 of 17
8/28/12 at 6:52am
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Going to buy a switch today and read that you can put a 420mm rad up top and figured its better cooling then a 360 rad (right?), So need some help on choosing a 420 rad and what fans to put in just push. Thanks thumb.gif
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post #2 of 17
8/28/12 at 6:58am
Just be careful as most 420mm radiatos will require a bit of modding as there is no standard fan spacing for 140mm fan rads. You might want to check the Official NZXT Switch 810 Thread for references.

Also beware of 60mm thick radiators as it may pose a problem mounting depending on your motherboard VRM heatsinks and 4/8pin CPU power.

I'm going to go with the Alphacool NexXxoS XT45 420mm in my switch!
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post #3 of 17
8/28/12 at 7:15am
I would recommend any of the Black Ice radiators, they have solid build qualities and perform well. The Switch 810 if I recall correctly uses 15mm spacing on the holes, and all Black Ice radiators use 15mm spacing.

If you're going for low-noise cooling, I would recommend the Black Ice SR-1 420. If you're going for maximum cooling, the Black Ice GTX 420 really can't be beat.

As for 140mm fans, the choices are really limited. I do quite like the specs of the Bgears B-Blaster 140mm fans. They use a double ball-bearing design (same bearing type as the Gentle Typhoons), so they should undervolt quite nicely and last a long time. The reviews on them are generally all favorable as well.
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8/28/12 at 7:20am
HWLabs uses 20mm spacing on their 140mm radiators. AFAIK the Switch uses 20mm spacing for the top radiator, but do not quote me on this. I wouldn't suggest any Black Ice radiators besides the SR1. They have too high of an FPI, which requires the use of high-speed high-pressure fans. For 20mm spacing grab either the SR1 or Thermochill PA140.3 if you can find one. Those are pretty much the only radiators w/ 20mm spacing, yet that is what most cases use.
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post #5 of 17
8/28/12 at 8:19am
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A 420 would give better cooling then a 360 by a good bit right?

I was looking at this rad

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_457_458&products_id=33800
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8/28/12 at 8:47am
Ah, that's right, it's 20mm spacing. Well, whatever it is, it appears that most other manufacturers use 15mm spacing, while HWLabs uses 20mm spacing. In either case, what I remembered is that the Switch 810 used the same spacing as HWLabs radiators.

That EX420 will not fit in the Switch 810 without modding.

I suggested the SR-1 if you wanted quiet cooling. In terms of pure cooling performance, very few (if any) radiators can beat the GTX series with the proper fans. And proper fans don't need to be ultra-high speed, just using AP-15s on the GTX 360 gave them a significant cooling advantage compared to the competition as tested by Skinneelabs. Granted, their tests aren't complete, but you could see the trend.
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8/28/12 at 9:53am
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I love the switch biggrin.gif

If you're an AMD user you're probably good for 60mm rads with push pull, most high end amd boards are shaped like mine
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8/28/12 at 10:26am
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A 420 would give better cooling then a 360 by a good bit right?
I was looking at this rad
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_457_458&products_id=33800
This rad would be nice, it would work really well with 3- 140 x 120 fan shrouds and 3 x 120 CM R4 fans. They are very quiet and have good static pressure, I use them on my Monsta 420 rad. Best of luck with build ! Picture shows 420 with shrouds and fans.
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8/28/12 at 10:45am
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This rad would be nice, it would work really well with 3- 140 x 120 fan shrouds and 3 x 120 CM R4 fans. They are very quiet and have good static pressure, I use them on my Monsta 420 rad. Best of luck with build ! Picture shows 420 with shrouds and fans.

Holy jesus that is huge lol.
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8/28/12 at 1:06pm
If you are comfortable with drilling all of 8 small screw holes in the top (which can't be seen), and is really very easy. Doing so means that you can use any radiator you want, rather than being stuck with 2-3 choices instead of 25-30.

I would highly recommend either of the following two rads: XSPC EX420 or Alphacool NeXXos UT60 (or XT45).

They are both the newest radiator designs and each incorporates some new and performance enhancing features, such as the 19 split fins per inch of the EX420 (which gives it the ability to work well at lower speeds, while also making it one of the absolute best scaling rad when it comes to fan speeds, outperforming its 60mm thick brother the RX series by a good amount at speeds above 1200rpm), and the full-copper construction of the NeXXos UT60 giving it phenomenal performance and it is also an incredible radiator over every fan speed level.

I went with the EX420 for the top and the UT60 240 for the bottom of my Switch, and I have 6x Bgears Blasters 140mm 1800rpm for push pull on the EX420. There is no better performing 140mm rad fan in terms of static pressure, with the Bgears putting out 3.5mmHg static pressure and a whopping 103cfm at 1800rpm. The dual ball bearings allow it to perform well in any orientation, which is important, and best of all they are incredibly inexpensive at $8-11/ea.
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2x Cerwin Vega VE-12 3-Way Tower Speakers (FR/FL) 2x RTR Series V Model 20 4-Way Tower Speakers (... 2x JBL SoundStage High-Dispersion 3-Way Bookshe... 2x JBL Professional-Series Subwoofers 12"+15" 
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MonoPrice 12AWG Copper-Stranded Speaker Cables ... Netgear N900 Wireless Card with 3x Detachable A... 3x Netgear 5-port Managed Switches Hauppage TV Capture Card 
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i7 3930K @ 4.8Ghz Asus Rampage 4 Extreme EVGA GTX670 FTW 2GB  16GB G.Skill Ripjaws-Z @ DDR3-2248 9-10-9-26 1T 
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Samsung 830 256GB SSD WD10EZEX 1TB HDD WD10EALX 1TB HDD Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 1TB 
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WD3200AAKS 320GB HDD LG/Hitachi Slim DVD-R/W Custom MB-Backside VRM-sinks (Copper) DD "Fill-Port Res" + Fill-Port Fitting (Red) 
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2x MCP35X + Heatsinks/80x15mm Fan XSPC EX420 Alphacool NeXXos UT60 240 6x Bgears Blasters 140mm 1800rpm Fans 
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4x Koolance 120x25mm 2600rpm Fans Comp/Rotary Fittings (BP/XSPC/Monsoon) Primoflex Pro LRT - White (1/2x3/4) 3x NZXT RF-FX140LB 1-2krpm 98.3CFM Case Fans 
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2x Corsair SP120-PE Case Fans Heatkiller GTX680 "Hole Edition" Block + Backplate XSPC Single-Bay Res (Single 5.25 bay) EK Multioption Res X2 - Advanced 150 
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Windows 7 Professional 64bit  Dell P2210Hb 21.5" 1920x1080p Viewsonic VA2012WB 20.1" LCD 1680x1050 Dell S2320L 23" 1920x1080p LED-Backlit 
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Mechanical (Browns) NZXT HALE90 850W NZXT Switch 810 (White) R.A.T.3 + MX510 
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My Desk GRADO RS1i Headphones Grado PS1000 Headphones Bitfenix Hydra Pro Fan Controller 5ch 30W/ch 
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Bitfenix Alchemy Individually-Sleeved Extension... NZXT Individually-Sleeved Front Panel Wires (Bl... Phobya Sleeved 1x3pin-to-4x3pin Fan Splitter Sleeved Wires w Paracord myself (no Heatshrink) 
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Custom Front and Top Panels w HexxMesh *In Prog... Working on Custom Pedestal Prototype 
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AMD FX-51 @2.69Ghz Asus SK8V  ATI X800XT PE 256MB GDDR3  1GB Corsair XMS @ DDR464 2-2-2-4 (XMS3200RE - R... 
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Western Digital Caviar SE WD1200JB 120GB 7200rp... 2x Western Digital Caviar SE 80GB SATA1.5 WD800... 3x Samsung Spingpoint NP08 80GB ATA133 8MB Cache 2x Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 160GB 7200rpm 8MB C... 
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Plextor DVD Burner  Lite-ON DVD-ReWriter Thermaltake Silent Tower Plus with 2x 120x38mm ... 5x Thermaltake 90mm 2500rpm/49cfm Case Fans 
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4x Thermaltake 120mm 1800rpm/58cfm Case Fans Windows XP Professional  2x 22" Viewsonic LCD 1680x1050 Monitors Old Compaq MECH Keyboard !! 
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Thermaltake Toughpower 560W PSU Modified Thermaltake Xaser V Limited Logitech M510 Grado SR325 Mahogany Audiophile Headphones  
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Intel Core2Duo E8600 Asus Stryker LGA775 HD5870 8GB Crucial DDR2-1066 5-5-5-10 
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2x Seagate 7200.9 320GB x2 Seagate 7200.7 160GB 1x WD Caviar SE16 160GB (OS) x2 Maxtor DiamondMax+ 200GB 
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3x WD Caviar SE16 80GB LG/Hitachi Slim DVD-R/W LG Blu-Ray Burner 3x Scythe Slipstream 1900rpm 120x25mm Fans 
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2x Delta 120x38mm PWM Fans (2.2-4.8krpm) 2x Delta 92x38mm PWM Fans Misc Assortment of 80/92/120/140 fans Windows 7 Pro x64 
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Dell 22" 1680x1050 LG 55" LED-LCD 120hz Television Epson DLP Projector (up to 1920x1200) Enermax 750W PSU 
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Antec SOHO Case (Modified for better cooling) Creative Sound Blaster Audigy Platinum Pioneer VSX-D819S 6.2CH DD/DTS Receiver 2x Pioneer Class-D Amplifiers 
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2x Cerwin Vega VE-12 3-Way Tower Speakers (FR/FL) 2x RTR Series V Model 20 4-Way Tower Speakers (... 2x JBL SoundStage High-Dispersion 3-Way Bookshe... 2x JBL Professional-Series Subwoofers 12"+15" 
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MonoPrice 12AWG Copper-Stranded Speaker Cables ... Netgear N900 Wireless Card with 3x Detachable A... 3x Netgear 5-port Managed Switches Hauppage TV Capture Card 
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