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I have always thought that the tick tock thing doesn't make sense. If you call new architecture a tock that means Ivy was a tick, sandy was a tock, and the first gen Core "i" series CPU was a tick. That doesn't make sense because the first gen core "i" CPU's where a brand new type of CPU.

Then you must have missed Westmere. The first gen core i7s had quad-core Nehalems on the 45nm tech for LGA1366 and quad-core Lynnfields on 45nm tech for LGA1156. Then they had hex-core Westmeres on 32nm tech for LGA1136. The Westmeres and the 32nm dual-core i5s and i3s on LGA1156 were the "tick." The tick is always the die shrink. The tock is always the new architecture.

In the case of the first gen i7s, Intel never released a 32nm quad-core replacement for the i7s and i5s. They went straight to 6-cores only on the high-end, and dual-cores only on the low and mid-range.
Edited by Tsumi - 8/28/12 at 2:48pm
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Haswell is looking good. I was planning to replace my 920 with it, but I recently decided to jump to X79 instead as my motherboard is starting to screw up and I figured I might as well take the opportunity to upgrade early. Should be getting my 3820 and sabertooth this week. :3
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I have always thought that the tick tock thing doesn't make sense. If you call new architecture a tock that means Ivy was a tick, sandy was a tock, and the first gen Core "i" series CPU was a tick. That doesn't make sense because the first gen core "i" CPU's where a brand new type of CPU.
The tick before Sandy Bridge was Westmere, Nehalem was the tock before that. I don´t think there were any midrange westmere parts though, just hexacores and dualcores with nothing in between, which is why it gets forgotten often.
Edited by Vonnis - 8/28/12 at 2:48pm
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It seems backwords doesnt it with IB-E and Haswell? The most expensive units are using the old acrchitecture.. while middle of the road get all the new tech.
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Probably getting this
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GT3 graphics is going to be used for some mobile models only. No GT3 for desktop
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I have my i7 3820 overclocked to 4.3 ghz, and I haven't even bothered to install any drivers except my graphics cards drivers in Windows 8.

Strange that it lets you do it. On a W7 partition I made to test it, it boots the OC just fine. But going to W8 it says the overclock failed.
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This is going to be good for PCSX2.

You mean Dolphin? because as far as I know, PCSX2 should run at 60fps all the time with any sandy bridge CPU or better. Dolphin on the other hand still has room for more IPC (depending which game, of course).

Dolphin has a clock speed? Don't you mean performance? IPC isn't interchangeable with it, a 1Ghz CPU with 4x the average IPC of a 3770k is only going to match a 4Ghz 3770k, just like how a chip with 1.5x less IPC (Kinda like Bulldozer) would have to hit 6Ghz to match it.
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Intel's specialization is processors. I doubt it can touch AMD in IGP department. Keep in mind the crappy image quality with Intel HD series. even if it shows close performance in benchmarks in real life it is another thing.

Problem is Intel's R&D budget is probably more than AMD worth all together, so should they wish to really outdo AMD IGP they can just throw money at the problem and while sometimes it doesn't work, when you have that much money and little competition on CPU side, it just can't fail, so it's a matter of will and time, outcome in obvious.

Throwing money at the problem doesn't gain the experience Intel lacks.
    
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You mean Dolphin? because as far as I know, PCSX2 should run at 60fps all the time with any sandy bridge CPU or better. Dolphin on the other hand still has room for more IPC (depending which game, of course).


Sandy will still not get 60 fps in all games in PCSX2 .
It highly depends on the game.
I can get 60 fps in most games using a Lynnfield chip @ 4.0 GHz. I get slowdowns in some games, so more power is always appreciated.
As for Dolphin I don't have a GC to try that.
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It seems backwords doesnt it with IB-E and Haswell? The most expensive units are using the old acrchitecture.. while middle of the road get all the new tech.


Corporate customers value reliability and stability. Intel only gives them proven technology.
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I've been holding out for Haswell myself, specifically the Notebook Edition.

I really doubt I will use another processor for a desktop as my quad core i5-750 has proved to be more than enough for whatever I need.

If my MB & CPU died I'd probably get another i5 quad core, I didn't like the heat issue with Ivy Bridge, let's hope that Haswell fixes that.

I just hope the IGP is good, as in real good..

*crosses fingers*

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