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Why simultaneaously? why not 1 by 1 to figure which one is making the noise. Maybe you just need to lubricate the fan bearings.
What if you just disconnect 1 case fan at time.
Does the sound get louder as the computer gets stressed?
Download something called OCCT, it has a "psu test" where both gpu and cpu get stressed. ONCE you eliminate the case fans as the suspect, do the psu test to see if the sound gets louder, then it would have to be your PSU or your GPU, or you CPU fan (maybe capacitor whine too, not just fans)

Sorry, I actually meant 1 by 1. But does it really matter? That would only be an important factor, if the noise stopped. But it doesn't stop whether I stop all the fans, or 1 by 1.

If it's not the PSU, I'll the to lubricate the fan bearings, thanks for the idea. Shouldn't be a problem though, as all my case fans er new and make no noise at all. It sounds like it's coming from somewhere around the bottom. Again, I think it's the PSU.

About the stress, as I said. I can't actually hear it during GPU load, as the GPU is just too damn load biggrin.gif It's only bothering me during idle. When I open small applications, the pitch does increase for a second or two, then goes back to the previous pitch.

I'll try OCCT and try it tomorrow before taking all the parts apart.

EDIT: What's capacitor whine? nerdsmiley.png
 
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post #12 of 55
idle you say? I think it may be the HDD's spinning down to save power. Had a Hitachi 500gb do that until i told it to never spin down in power saving settings.

Look up HDD sounds, see if any ring a bell.

Also one thing, your mobo does it have a vga/dvi port to hook your monitor up WITHOUT the GPU, just for now, just to completely eliminate the GPU from teh equation.
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post #13 of 55
the solution is obvious, stick a pencil into the PSU just enough to stop the fan from spinning, then you should be able to tell if it's the psu fan or not biggrin.gif
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I had a similar problem to you, I couldn't track the noise down on my old machine, turned out to be the cheap power supply, they made it with a plastic flap in the way of the PSU fan so it blew air over the plastic making a whistling noise, very annoying, I took the PSU apart and removed the plastic and the problem was gone wink.gif
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post #15 of 55
Ya I would run the system with the fans on one at a time except the cpu fan leave that one on.

With ASUS boards you can typically find fan settings in the bios and set the minimum speed to 100%.

You wont even have to boot into windows just F10 save and enter back into bios each time, but I would turn off completely before unplugging/plugging in the fans.

If you find that one fan is just noisy at high speed find which header it is, usually labeled on the mobo itself and set the fan settings differently for that header. Usually it will say max speed set it to like 75% or wherever the sound is tolerable. Make sure it is still moving enough air if not move it to a less crucial spot in the case.
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Thank you for your replies so far. Since I'm a curious cat ( biggrin.gif ), I decided to give OCCT a go now, even though it's past midnight right now. Didn't know where to look on the charts, but it all gave me some ideas.

CPU : OCCT
This test made the noise a little more high in pitch, but not by much.

CPU : LINPACK
Again, slighty higher pitch noise.

GPU: 3D
At the beginning of the test, the noise actually increasing by a whole lot, but the noise went back to "normal" after the GPU fan started increasing in speed. Getting very close to it, I could hear it was still there.

Power Supply
Here, the pitch of the noise didn't increase a lot either, but a little more than it did in the CPU-tests.

Note: I only ran the tests a couple of minutes each.

I tried removing the connection between monitor and GPU (HDMI), and the sound was still there. 100% it's not the GPU at this point.

If you check my rig out, the HDD and SSD is very close to my PSU, because of the way I have arranged the HDD bays. Therefore, I can't tell whether it's the PSU or HDD without taking it all together. I'll do that tomorrow. Although, I'm pretty sure at this point that it is the PSU.
The PSU is not too small, but it's 600W for a 4.5Ghz i5 2500k and a GTX 670. Is it possibly that it's slightly stressed, without actually being in the danger zone? It's a VERY good build PSU, maybe the fan just need the dust to be removed?

I can't seem to find the sound of a functional, but loud HDD. But the following video actually reminds me of the noise a bit. Don't worry, it's not all the fail sounds and all the *tacktack*, but the spinner itself. Mine is not this loud, but the sound of the spinner itself kind of reminds me of the sound from my rig.

Update: I just tried to transfer a BIG file from my HDD to the SSD and back. The pitch of the noise didn't change AT ALL. So I'm starting to think that it's not the HDD.
Edited by OkanG - 8/28/12 at 3:22pm
 
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post #17 of 55
High pitch/screechy noise = coil/capacitor whine
Drone/whooshing/whirring sound = fans
low pitch drone sound/scratchy sound = hard drive

Does that help?
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No one has mentioned this yet, may help you in your situation. Grab an old paper towel roll, or plastic tube and put it to your ear, then move it around your case while it is on to try and pinpoint the location of the sound. Seems silly but it works. I used this to help me pinpoint coil whine coming from my old power supply.
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I tried removing the connection between monitor and GPU (HDMI), and the sound was still there. 100% it's not the GPU at this point.


Removing the display output cable does not turn off the GPU, it would still make noise as long as the GPU is powered on, regardless of whether or not it has a display cable connected.
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No one has mentioned this yet, may help you in your situation. Grab an old paper towel roll, or plastic tube and put it to your ear, then move it around your case while it is on to try and pinpoint the location of the sound. Seems silly but it works. I used this to help me pinpoint coil whine coming from my old power supply.

Just tried this. The sound seems to be very clear between the PSU and GPU. When I lightly put the tube ON a random place on the motherboard, I can hear the sound through the tube too. It's not as loud as when I put the tube between GPU and PSU though.



My curiosity made me shut down my PC at 1 o'clock after midnight, because of this noise biggrin.gif
Soooo, I tried removing the GPU completely. This didn't help.

Although I noticed one thing about the noise. While the case fans start up immideately when I start the computer, the noisy fan (which placement I do not know) starts up a second or two later than everything else, revving up a little bit, then reducing the pitch to the speed it is running at when idle.

So coil and capacitor whine is the same thing?

It sounds like a fan.
Maybe it could be the other small fan, which acts as an exhaust on the motherboard? Anyone familiar with this board? There's two tiny fans, 20mm or something. One acts as intake, which is right above my GPU. I tried stopping this, but it didn't help. I don't have access to the exhaust one though, as I need a screwdriver for this. Could that small a fan produce noise enough to be heard despite all the other fans in my case?

Note: I removed all filters of the case, to see if they were the issue, including the dust filter for the PSU fan. This didn't work either.

Second note and edit: When I remove the HDMI for the GPU while the computer is on, it revs up a little bit for a second, and goes back to 'normal' pitch again. Just like when I do minor things when browsing the web.
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