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I truly hope it can beat my sandy, probably not at 5ghz, but at like 4.5 at least. I honestly dont think it will be close to Haswell unless they do some serious improving and stop doing the whole quantity over quality.
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I truly hope it can beat my sandy, probably not at 5ghz, but at like 4.5 at least. I honestly dont think it will be close to Haswell unless they do some serious improving and stop doing the whole quantity over quality.

PD is to Haswell as Fermi is to GCN (or, better yet, as GT200 is to Evergreen). The former will still be selling when the latter is out and will continue to do so for months, but they won't truly be of the same generation.
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Your electricity bill would be a nightmare.
Actual power consumption ( ie. power bill) would be a negligible difference vs a x79 rig,and wouldn't really matter to someone who is dedicating machines to folding.
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You could also buy 3 FX-8150s for the price of one 3930K.

But you'd only need one system for the 3930k.
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I'd imagine if you didn't care about overclocking, you could have more than enough spare cash from price differences elsewhere (eg. motherboard) to run them in a cluster which would be great for highly threaded tasks.

A minority of highly threaded tasks.

I could easily put 24+ threads to work, but I can't think of anything I do that would scale well over a cluster, certainly not with normal 1Gbps ethernet connecting them.
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Actual power consumption ( ie. power bill) would be a negligible difference vs a x79 rig,and wouldn't really matter to someone who is dedicating machines to folding.

That's debatable.

Anyway, for a folding farm, I'd want a bunch of cheap LGA-1155 Xeons, or a 4P Opteron setup.
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Apparently there's a hidden keyboard shortcut to post automatically, I have no idea why but editing this when I actually finish my post. rolleyes.gif (Thanks for more useless features, Huddler)
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You could also buy 3 FX-8150s for the price of one 3930K.

Sure you can but then why buy the 8 core IV-E you were talking about earlier? Go buy yourself 3x 8150FXs then and enjoy the weak performance it offers.

...Because 3x8 core BDs would still win in multithreaded stuff that scales for clusters? And how is any modern high-end CPU weak? The only recent CPU I could describe as weak (In that it actually lags for normal tasks) is any of the Atoms released as of this post or even the Zacate based AMD APUs.
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Your electricity bill would be a nightmare.
Actual power consumption ( ie. power bill) would be a negligible difference vs a x79 rig,and wouldn't really matter to someone who is dedicating machines to folding.

It would be a nightmare, OCed FX-8150s suck up nearly as much juice as one 3930K overclocked.
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You could also buy 3 FX-8150s for the price of one 3930K.

But you'd only need one system for the 3930k.

My point is that they're not really comparable, it's like if I compared an Atom D2700 to a 3770k...The 3770k is going to destroy it, obviously, but it is also going to cost a tonne more.
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I'd imagine if you didn't care about overclocking, you could have more than enough spare cash from price differences elsewhere (eg. motherboard) to run them in a cluster which would be great for highly threaded tasks.

A minority of highly threaded tasks.

I could easily put 24+ threads to work, but I can't think of anything I do that would scale well over a cluster, certainly not with normal 1Gbps ethernet connecting them.

It'd be pretty close, overall; a single FX-8150 matches a 2600k clock for clock in x264 encoding for example, even my FX-4170 comes pretty close to my girlfriends 3570k at similar clocks, not equal but close and my chip cost a good $100 less.
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My point is that they're not really comparable, it's like if I compared an Atom D2700 to a 3770k...The 3770k is going to destroy it, obviously, but it is also going to cost a tonne more.

Exactly, you pay for what you get. That's why AMD had to come down in prices with its current processors.
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It would be a nightmare, OCed FX-8150s suck up nearly as much juice as one 3930K overclocked.

3 using nearly as much as 1 from the competition? So there's no problem with using 3 8150s then tongue.gif

Although the 3930k will probably fold a hell of a lot faster..
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My point is that they're not really comparable, it's like if I compared an Atom D2700 to a 3770k...The 3770k is going to destroy it, obviously, but it is also going to cost a tonne more.

Exactly, you pay for what you get. That's why AMD had to come down in prices with its current processors.

Yep, before they dropped prices the FX series wasn't worth it but now the lower end chips are actually good value.
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It would be a nightmare, OCed FX-8150s suck up nearly as much juice as one 3930K overclocked.

3 using nearly as much as 1 from the competition? So there's no problem with using 3 8150s then tongue.gif

Although the 3930k will probably fold a hell of a lot faster..

Nah, 1 would use as much as 1 so the 3 FX-8150s would use 3x the power or so; I think the 3930k would definitely fold faster but that's because they used the Intel compiler.
    
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8150 is about 10 frames slower then a 2500k in gaming and the 8150 is cheaper

The 8350 beats the 2500k and competes against the 2600k but Intel is still better because you can get a better chip and still use the same motherboard. The 8350 is the last and final chip in the piledriver series so any upgrades is going to need a new motherboars as they wont support the am3+ board.

All I'm trying to say is forget the new piledriver chips because your upgrade path is going to suck.

Most information comes from orb as he's information had been correct in the past and if you do go on his website he does show us prove that the chip was real.

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8150 is about 10 frames slower then a 2500k in gaming and the 8150 is cheaper
The 8350 beats the 2500k and competes against the 2600k but Intel is still better because you can get a better chip and still use the same motherboard. The 8350 is the last and final chip in the piledriver series so any upgrades is going to need a new motherboars as they wont support the am3+ board.
All I'm trying to say is forget the new piledriver chips because your upgrade path is going to suck.
Most information comes from orb as he's information had been correct in the past and if you do go on his website he does show us prove that the chip was real.
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So... what upgrade path does Ivy have?
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