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VIA? I'm talking about Intel, Medfield is slower than an ARM Cortex-A9 clock for clock, in caffinemark Medfield at 1.6Ghz gets a slightly higher score than my Galaxy S II when its at 1.4Ghz, and a fairly lower score (10500 for Medfield vs 11100 for my Cortex-A9) when they're both at 1.6Ghz.

Galaxy S2 uses dual core Cortex-A9

If both have same number of cores then medfield is going to be much faster.
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VIA? I'm talking about Intel, Medfield is slower than an ARM Cortex-A9 clock for clock, in caffinemark Medfield at 1.6Ghz gets a slightly higher score than my Galaxy S II when its at 1.4Ghz, and a fairly lower score (10500 for Medfield vs 11100 for my Cortex-A9) when they're both at 1.6Ghz.

ARM is pretty decent, however, what gives the x86 its edge over ARM are the higher complexity extensions like AVX, SS2, etc. Downside of these is, that they make the x86 more power hungry as all these transistors need some power. It's sort of like GPU vs CPU think in a sense, GPU is very powerful highly parallel processor which is built for one particular task and completely destroys CPU's in that task (and tasks resembling the intended use closely, like single precision floating point computing) while the CPU is more general think, sort of "jack of all trades, master of none".

ARM very well might outperform Intel CPU's in base x86-like performance, however, once things get more complex and you start doing tasks which can and will utilize also the newer extensions the picture is not as black-and-white anymore I would assume. In a sense I would say that ARM is more like GPU than a CPU as its somewhat simpler in structure than its x86 counterparts although ofc not quite as simle as true GPU's as it still needs memory controller, a bit more complex decoders and that kind of stuff.

And if ARM had those on a full desktop CPU? Out of curiousity, what does Medfield have? I'd be willing to bet that it at least has MMX, SSE and SSE2 as x87 is depreciated.
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VIA? I'm talking about Intel, Medfield is slower than an ARM Cortex-A9 clock for clock, in caffinemark Medfield at 1.6Ghz gets a slightly higher score than my Galaxy S II when its at 1.4Ghz, and a fairly lower score (10500 for Medfield vs 11100 for my Cortex-A9) when they're both at 1.6Ghz.

Galaxy S2 uses dual core Cortex-A9

If both have same number of cores then medfield is going to be much faster.

Caffienemark and most of Android is single core iirc, plus a single Medfield core uses about as much power as two Cortex-A9s on 45nm.
    
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I'm sure Piledrive and Steamroller will deliver if AMD are already confident in showing it.

When can we expect FX 8300s to be out on Ebuyer for the UK or Newegg for the US? Q2 2013?
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These code names are great.

When's JACKHAMMER?
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And if ARM had those on a full desktop CPU? Out of curiousity, what does Medfield have? I'd be willing to bet that it at least has MMX, SSE and SSE2 as x87 is depreciated.
Caffienemark and most of Android is single core iirc, plus a single Medfield core uses about as much power as two Cortex-A9s on 45nm.

But you were comparing an overclocked cortex A9 to a stock Medfield. Galaxy S2 clock speed is only 1.2GHz

ALso, what do you think about this review ?
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5770/lava-xolo-x900-review-the-first-intel-medfield-phone/4

Lava Xolo X900 which uses Medfield beats galaxy S2 in almost all benchmarks
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And if ARM had those on a full desktop CPU? Out of curiousity, what does Medfield have? I'd be willing to bet that it at least has MMX, SSE and SSE2 as x87 is depreciated.
Caffienemark and most of Android is single core iirc, plus a single Medfield core uses about as much power as two Cortex-A9s on 45nm.

But you were comparing an overclocked cortex A9 to a stock Medfield. Galaxy S2 clock speed is only 1.2GHz

ALso, what do you think about this review ?
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5770/lava-xolo-x900-review-the-first-intel-medfield-phone/4

Lava Xolo X900 which uses Medfield beats galaxy S2 in almost all benchmarks

..Yes, at stock. I'm saying the ARM Cortex-A9 core (Which is still the top core in phones today, but soon to be replaced by the A15) is faster clock for clock, any 1.5Ghz or above phone is going to match or beat Medfield while using less power.
    
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These code names are great.
When's JACKHAMMER?

One of the old Athlon 64s was Clawhammer, which was undoubtedly one of the best codenames ever. biggrin.gif

Don't think an ordinary jackhammer is a big enough piece of equipment to qualify for a codename, though. Compacter and grader could work.
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These code names are great.
When's JACKHAMMER?

One of the old Athlon 64s was Clawhammer, which was undoubtedly one of the best codenames ever. biggrin.gif

Don't think an ordinary jackhammer is a big enough piece of equipment to qualify for a codename, though. Compacter and grader could work.

I think their best codename was for a single core Turion; Sparta. biggrin.gif
    
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At least the AMD ones sound hardcore. Skylake sounds, well, grouphug.gif
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At least the AMD ones sound hardcore. Skylake sounds, well, grouphug.gif

True. If Excavator is released to compete with Skylake, AMD better take the performance crown back. Otherwise it will be like the cast of "The Expendables" getting beat up by the cast of "The Notebook".
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