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post #11 of 18
actually you'd be better off with 3 intake and 1 exhaust. simply because your intake fans should be filtered, so the CFM rating is cut by alot from the filter. so essentially you need 2 intake for each exhaust to even reach some kind of balanced pressure. the 3rd intake fan is simply supplying additional positive pressure to keep dust out as well as supplying additional cool air pressure to help with GPU cooling.
post #12 of 18
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Well my Case Antec Three Hundred came with 2 exhaust fans installed. One in Top and one in Rear. Should i remove one of them?
     
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post #13 of 18
you could, but the better choice would be to relocate either the top or the rear exhaust (depending on your HSF orientation) and put it on the side panel as an additional intake. do realize if you migrate that fan, you'll need to get an air filter for it since the side panel does not have an air filter. this way you have 3 filtered intakes (2 front 1 side panel) and 1 exhaust (top or rear) and still keep the proper case pressure and airflow for optimized cooling.
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I think the rear fan must be on the side then because the top fan is a 140mm.

But should the cooling be much better then? smile.gif
     
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post #15 of 18
wouldn't be MUCH better, you might not even notice the difference. there would however be less dust inside the case since you are going from a negative pressure case to a positive pressure case. over the long run, it will be better cooling solution due to less dust accumulation on the heatsink fins on both the CPU and GPU.
post #16 of 18
For heat pipes I thought it had something to with how fast the condensed vapors could wicked back to the heat source.
Some paper read had plug in values for diameter and length, vapor velocity. Yes there is minimum effective length.The higher the vapor velocity away from the heat source the slower the return of the condensate to the heat source. The equilibrium point is the TDP max. This was for unwicked vertical copper pipes for solar collectors I.E 12.7 mm, 19mm and 25mm diameters and 1 meter plus length. I even saw a youtube HowTo for soldering & sealing a acetone based heat pipe with 3/4" 3' long copper pipe. As long as the boiling acetone has forced all the O2 out no problem. This not a indoor project. I used to be the goto guy for screw pipe during refinery turnarounds.
So the real question is are 6 x 6mm heat pipes better than 4 x 8mm pipes? A Corsair A70 has 4 double ended 8mm pipes. It's cooling matches or exceeds some water coolers. Dont plan on using any side fans next to it.
post #17 of 18
This is a 1045t cooled by a Corsair A70 hdmonitor txt report during folding operations: 24C ambient
Open frame single 120mm moving air across the mobo fan #2 fans 1 & 3 are the push pulls for A70
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| +- GPU Shader : 1645.31 0 1645.31 (/nvidiagpu/0/clock/2)
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| +- GPU Memory Controller : 12 3 34 (/nvidiagpu/0/load/1)
| +- GPU Video Engine : 0 0 0 (/nvidiagpu/0/load/2)
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| +- GPU Fan : 34 30 37 (/nvidiagpu/0/control/0)
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post #18 of 18
Raidmax Smilodon closed case 2 x120mm in + 1 x 80mm & 2 Sunon 50CFM @ 75% in + 1 x 120mm & 1 x 92mm out + power supply out
Silverstone NTo-E 130 watt, 5 single ended 6mm pipes, 1 x 120mm fan
24C ambient


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