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8/29/12 at 12:35pm
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Pick 2:
Good picture quality
Good response times
Cheap
Is it perhaps possible you could wait and save some more money?
If not, you should go for the mentioned Dell monitors. They have IPS panels that have good image quality and OK response times.
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Why would i (or other people) would not want an IPS? I'm new to this.
Edit: i've read the stickies here, couldn't find an answer
Edited by yezz12 - 8/29/12 at 12:42pm
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Sonolegolas
What about the Asus VH236H? It was the official monitor after all. Also, why did they switch to BenQ?
Does Dell have an aspect control function like Asus? What that means, it puts black bars if i want to play cs 1.6 at 800x600 Edit: I just found out that any Nvidia graphics card has that feature
Edited by yezz12 - 8/29/12 at 4:11pm
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Originally Posted by lynnperformance 
Colorwise, I think the Dell looks better overall but I've never been all too picky about that for FPS. I personally recommend the Asus VH236H. It has a 2 ms response time if that matters to you, and I guess there was a reason it was the official MLG monitor until they switched to the BenQ. In the USA its $149.99 after rebate but I'm not sure if you can still find it in the UK.
Amazon.co.uk has several monitors with several specs. Here's a Newegg.Com link with specs though.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236059

Colorwise, I think the Dell looks better overall but I've never been all too picky about that for FPS. I personally recommend the Asus VH236H. It has a 2 ms response time if that matters to you, and I guess there was a reason it was the official MLG monitor until they switched to the BenQ. In the USA its $149.99 after rebate but I'm not sure if you can still find it in the UK.
Amazon.co.uk has several monitors with several specs. Here's a Newegg.Com link with specs though.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236059
What about the Asus VH236H? It was the official monitor after all. Also, why did they switch to BenQ?
Does Dell have an aspect control function like Asus? What that means, it puts black bars if i want to play cs 1.6 at 800x600 Edit: I just found out that any Nvidia graphics card has that feature
Edited by yezz12 - 8/29/12 at 4:11pm
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8/29/12 at 3:31pm
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I haven't had any ghosting problems at all with both monitors, they have ran fantastic! 


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Originally Posted by DaFaRsHeR 
For FPS shooters 8ms response time is fine as it will be more likely that input lag is your true enemy. As you appear to be happy with a Matt or Anti Glare coating then the model being suggested by the members here (U2312HM) has the lowest input lag of any (e) IPS monitor at 0.6ms (see http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_u2312hm.htm). If you do not want an IPS monitor then perhaps a Benq 2410T or 2420T (which are TN panels and were produced as gaming monitors) might suit you.
The U2312HM has been on Amazon for about £180.

For FPS shooters 8ms response time is fine as it will be more likely that input lag is your true enemy. As you appear to be happy with a Matt or Anti Glare coating then the model being suggested by the members here (U2312HM) has the lowest input lag of any (e) IPS monitor at 0.6ms (see http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_u2312hm.htm). If you do not want an IPS monitor then perhaps a Benq 2410T or 2420T (which are TN panels and were produced as gaming monitors) might suit you.
The U2312HM has been on Amazon for about £180.
So which one is the fastest? The U2312HM or VS248H (considering both input lag and response time)?
I can't chose until i know which one is faster.
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8/30/12 at 9:46am
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Yezz12Because for FPS gaming TN panels are quicker (generally than most if not all types of IPS panel).
Try this forum discussion it was on the exact same subject (VS248H vs Dell U2312HM) http://www.overclock.net/t/1145856/asus-vs248h-p-or-dell-u2312hm
Also as TFT central often remark be very wary of manufacturers advertised G2G times they are not always accurate. IMHO you are looking at two very good monitors it is just a case of which slight weakness in each you can live with (Dell U2312Hm AG white background issues or Asus VS248H ghosting). I cannot answer your question which one is the fastest but I would go with TFT's No.1 rating which they say indicates a monitor as being suitable for high end gaming.
(As I mentioned earlier I had this dilemma recently with a similar budget and ended up going for a Asus P238Q but had a lot of advice from forum members to go with the U2312HM - no regrets so far).
Edited by DaFaRsHeR - 8/30/12 at 9:56am
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Originally Posted by DaFaRsHeR 
Yezz12
Because for FPS gaming TN panels are quicker (generally than most if not all types of IPS panel).
Try this forum discussion it was on the exact same subject (VS248H vs Dell U2312HM) http://www.overclock.net/t/1145856/asus-vs248h-p-or-dell-u2312hm
Also as TFT central often remark be very wary of manufacturers advertised G2G times they are not always accurate. IMHO you are looking at two very good monitors it is just a case of which slight weakness in each you can live with (Dell U2312Hm AG white background issues or Asus VS248H ghosting). I cannot answer your question which one is the fastest but I would go with TFT's No.1 rating which they say indicates a monitor as being suitable for high end gaming.
(As I mentioned earlier I had this dilemma recently with a similar budget and ended up going for a Asus P238Q but had a lot of advice from forum members to go with the U2312HM - no regrets so far).

Yezz12
Because for FPS gaming TN panels are quicker (generally than most if not all types of IPS panel).
Try this forum discussion it was on the exact same subject (VS248H vs Dell U2312HM) http://www.overclock.net/t/1145856/asus-vs248h-p-or-dell-u2312hm
Also as TFT central often remark be very wary of manufacturers advertised G2G times they are not always accurate. IMHO you are looking at two very good monitors it is just a case of which slight weakness in each you can live with (Dell U2312Hm AG white background issues or Asus VS248H ghosting). I cannot answer your question which one is the fastest but I would go with TFT's No.1 rating which they say indicates a monitor as being suitable for high end gaming.
(As I mentioned earlier I had this dilemma recently with a similar budget and ended up going for a Asus P238Q but had a lot of advice from forum members to go with the U2312HM - no regrets so far).
ok thanks
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8/30/12 at 10:46am
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Originally Posted by yezz12 
Sonolegolas
What about the Asus VH236H? It was the official monitor after all. Also, why did they switch to BenQ?
Does Dell have an aspect control function like Asus? What that means, it puts black bars if i want to play cs 1.6 at 800x600 Edit: I just found out that any Nvidia graphics card has that feature

Sonolegolas
What about the Asus VH236H? It was the official monitor after all. Also, why did they switch to BenQ?
Does Dell have an aspect control function like Asus? What that means, it puts black bars if i want to play cs 1.6 at 800x600 Edit: I just found out that any Nvidia graphics card has that feature
There wasn't a very good stated reason to why they switched to BenQ but I imagine its a combination of specs, contract, price and the fact that BenQ released a official "gaming" monitor that was developed with cooperation from some well known MLG athletes.
There are a few variations, but here is one of the ones I have seen at MLG events.
http://www.amazon.com/BenQ-GL2450HM-24-Inch-Circuit-Console/dp/B006HIKIHO
Specs are fairly similar, but the switch was only really this past year. I haven't heard much about how the MLG gamers felt about it though, but it does sport the same lag time so I imagine it can't be too bad.
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