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So, like I'm sure most new computer builders have, I've been spending hours searching forums and benchmarks, and.. countless other resources to see which CPU would be the best bang for my buck. The build will be for gaming. Now, of course I'm not looking for an Intel as budget is a bit of a concern. I've been looking at the FX series, and the Phenom II (Though, most of them are sold out/discontinued on Newegg and TigerDirect.) I'm getting pretty much everything new aside from my GPU, for now at least. Here is my current, crappy, build.

CPU: Athlon 64 x2 4450e
GPU: GeForce 550Ti (I'm aware that will be a bit of a bottleneck.)
PSU: Antec 650w
Ram: 4 gig.
And.. that's about it really.
I plan to get a SSD, along with another HD down the road, and a GPU. I'm also interested in possibly starting out in YouTube commentary, just as.. something to do, really. I know the 8150 would be good for rendering, but for right now I'm mainly looking for gaming purposes. Also, here are the parts I plan to get;

Case; http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233
MB: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157280
(Due to some reviews on the Ram that comes with MB, I will most likely get other sticks.)
Cooler: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

I'm certain I know of the GPU I'm going to get, but, like I said, help in discovering the best CPU would be a tremendous help.
Edited by Ducksworth - 8/29/12 at 3:02pm
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With that mb id pick the fx-4100, and also this ram

fx-4100---http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103996
Samsung 2x4 (8gb)---http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147096


With that cooler you should easily hit 4.6ghz with 2 fans on it. (as long as you have decent case airflow as well, which that cm case does as long as you buy fans with it.)

The samsung ram can easily get to 2ghz and the fx series loves fast ram.

preemptive strike against the i3: The fx will outperform any budget i3 build, once overclocked. It will also show equal performance in 4 threaded applications at stock clocks. If you are an overclocker you should have no problem getting more performance out of that fx-4 then you would an i3.

If you have the budget to spend on an i5-k series however i would definitely recommend you do so, However this would cost about ~$100 more.
Edited by Cannon19932006 - 8/29/12 at 3:10pm
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The best bang for buck cpu for gaming right now is probably an i3 2100, but if you must get amd an fx 4100 would do fine (with an overclock on higher end gpus). You should just list the rest of your upgrade plans too.

If I were you right now, I would probably just wait. The ivy bridge i3s and also piledriver is coming very soon here. (ivy i3 is supposedly coming in 3-4 days)
Edited by auraofjason - 8/29/12 at 3:12pm
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hello,
the fx 4100 or the fx 6100 as battlefield 3 uses 6 threads it would be better to get a 6 core cpu,if you play it that is.
    
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Thanks for the prompt responses, guys. As for the first post, I was looking at the i5 and, I know it is an awesome gaming cpu but.. yeah right now, I don't have the extra cash. Also, how big of a step up from the 4100 would the 4170 be?

And, I was uncertain of the i3, being a dual core and all. It may just be me being a newbie at computer parts, or not doing enough research. I could certainly wait, if need be. I don't plan to get the parts until this coming weekend/beginning of next week anyway. Also, yeah I'll do just that.

Upgraded GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161404
SSD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227706
Still undecided on a new HD, but I plan to get a 2 or 3 TB.

Third post; I don't actually own BF3, but it's nice to know that those would do pretty good on it. As of right now, I plan to play games like GW2, Borderlands 2 (When it comes out) and several others that aren't.. too demanding, I guess. At least not as much as BF3.
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you can look for a Phenom II 960T some of them will unlock to a 6 core but even as a 4 core they overclock very well
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Thanks for the prompt responses, guys. As for the first post, I was looking at the i5 and, I know it is an awesome gaming cpu but.. yeah right now, I don't have the extra cash. Also, how big of a step up from the 4100 would the 4170 be?
And, I was uncertain of the i3, being a dual core and all. It may just be me being a newbie at computer parts, or not doing enough research. I could certainly wait, if need be. I don't plan to get the parts until this coming weekend/beginning of next week anyway. Also, yeah I'll do just that.
Upgraded GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161404
SSD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227706
Still undecided on a new HD, but I plan to get a 2 or 3 TB.
Third post; I don't actually own BF3, but it's nice to know that those would do pretty good on it. As of right now, I plan to play games like GW2, Borderlands 2 (When it comes out) and several others that aren't.. too demanding, I guess. At least not as much as BF3.

The 4170 is kind of a waste if you're going to overclock. As for the 960t recommendation given, it's a nice processor but you will most likely have a difficult time finding one cheap, as they aren't being made anymore. I wouldn't recommend you pay over 125 if you do find a 960t.
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Thanks for the prompt responses, guys. As for the first post, I was looking at the i5 and, I know it is an awesome gaming cpu but.. yeah right now, I don't have the extra cash. Also, how big of a step up from the 4100 would the 4170 be?
And, I was uncertain of the i3, being a dual core and all. It may just be me being a newbie at computer parts, or not doing enough research. I could certainly wait, if need be. I don't plan to get the parts until this coming weekend/beginning of next week anyway. Also, yeah I'll do just that.
Upgraded GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161404
SSD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227706
Still undecided on a new HD, but I plan to get a 2 or 3 TB.
Third post; I don't actually own BF3, but it's nice to know that those would do pretty good on it. As of right now, I plan to play games like GW2, Borderlands 2 (When it comes out) and several others that aren't.. too demanding, I guess. At least not as much as BF3.
Yes, the i3 is a dual core, but a dual core with hyperthreading, so it has 4 threads. Take a look at this: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-4100-core-i3-2100-gaming-benchmark,3136-6.html
Again, I would probably wait until the ivy bridge i3s coming in 4 days, or piledriver in 1-2 months.

Also, thats a good gpu, but the ssd is kind of old. The vertex 4 is actually on sale until 11:59pm today for only $80, which is a steal to me: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227791
Edited by auraofjason - 8/29/12 at 3:50pm
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Yes, the i3 is a dual core, but a dual core with hyperthreading, so it has 4 threads. Take a look at this: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-4100-core-i3-2100-gaming-benchmark,3136-6.html
Again, I would probably wait until the ivy bridge i3s coming in 4 days, or piledriver in 1-2 months.
Also, thats a good gpu, but the ssd is kind of old. The vertex 4 is actually on sale until 11:59pm today for only $80, which is a steal to me: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227791

Those are at stock clocks, and the fx is ridiculously easy to overclock, while you can't overclock the i3. Plus ivy i3 is ~7% higher performance then sandy i3. Not going to make up for a skilled overclock with an fx-4. Also i3 costs more mad.gif
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I've seen a lot of good things about the Phenoms, though, yeah sadly most aren't being made. I have seen a 965.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727
Not sure how that is. And, I'm not too familiar with overclocking, but I can learn easily I'm sure. So, I'm assuming that the 8120 & 8120 would be kinda a waste too then? Or, if I'm going in that price range would I be better off with an i5?

Ooh, I see. This is kinda why I've had a tough time trying to choose which cpu would be good lol. Also, I'll have to grab that up. That is a steal.
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