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post #11 of 31
Why buy another 2 sticks of RAM for 50$ when 8 gigs of ddr3 1600 cl9 comes for free with that board? Sounds like a waste of $50 for little gain, when you could spend that money on a better CPU or GPU, which is fairly important in a budget limited build. Shoot.

$95 for 4100
$47 (assuming Samsung DDR3)
$90 asrock 970
$30 CM 212+

= $262


$35 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148543
$50 AR http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128527
$195 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116506

= $280

Less than $20 more for an IVY setup...


And I'm not even working hard to find deals.

Also this was quick and dirty to give you an idea, I'm not suggesting you buy this exact setup or anything.wink.gif


Here if you want to build a good AMD RIG cheap, you might try this:

ASUS M5A99X EVO AMD 990X SLI/CrossFireX Socket AM3+

Otherwise stick with the free ram and just run some memtests on it before the 30 day window is up.

Of course Geeks have refurb 1155 intel boards as well tongue.gif
Edited by LuckySe7ens - 8/29/12 at 4:05pm
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post #12 of 31
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Originally Posted by LuckySe7ens View Post

Why buy another 2 sticks of RAM for 50$ when 8 gigs of ddr3 1600 cl9 comes for free with that board? Sounds like a waste of $50 for little gain, when you could spend that money on a better CPU or GPU, which is fairly important in a budget limited build. Shoot.
$95 for 4100
$47 (assuming Samsung DDR3)
$90 asrock 970
$30 CM 212+
= $262
$35 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148543
$50 AR http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128527
$195 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116506
= $280
Less than $20 more for an IVY setup...
And I'm not even working hard to find deals.
Also this was quick and dirty to give you an idea, I'm not suggesting you buy this exact setup or anything.wink.gif
Here if you want to build a good AMD RIG cheap, you might try this:
ASUS M5A99X EVO AMD 990X SLI/CrossFireX Socket AM3+
Otherwise stick with the free ram and just run some memtests on it before the 30 day window is up.
Of course Geeks have refurb 1155 intel boards as well tongue.gif

Well, dang. Seems to be a good build. Shows how good I did my research.. lol So, I'm not too familiar with Intel, is that CPU a step below the 2500k or~? I'm looking at the Tom's Hardware CPU Hierarchy Chart, and it's better than the 4100 it shows.
post #13 of 31
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Well, dang. Seems to be a good build. Shows how good I did my research.. lol So, I'm not too familiar with Intel, is that CPU a step below the 2500k or~? I'm looking at the Tom's Hardware CPU Hierarchy Chart, and it's better than the 4100 it shows.
That cpu is basically a 2500k without the overclocking.
post #14 of 31
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That cpu is basically a 2500k without the overclocking.

So, in other words, much better than the 4100? Or is the margin very big at all?
post #15 of 31
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Originally Posted by Ducksworth View Post

Well, dang. Seems to be a good build. Shows how good I did my research.. lol So, I'm not too familiar with Intel, is that CPU a step below the 2500k or~? I'm looking at the Tom's Hardware CPU Hierarchy Chart, and it's better than the 4100 it shows.

That is a setup that is NOT capable of overclocking (maybe a couple of ref clock bumps but don't expect much). It should be 5-10% better clock/clock than Sandy Bridge or so, and it runs turbo boost @ 3.5ghz.

Should be fine on stock cooling however.

If you are definitely wanting to overclock then AMD is the clear choice @ your budget. But if set it and forget it is the goal than Intel has a MUCH better offering. You end up with a lesser motherboard, but better CPU performance all around.
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post #16 of 31
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So, in other words, much better than the 4100? Or is the margin very big at all?
Much better: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5871/intel-core-i5-3470-review-hd-2500-graphics-tested/5
(the 3470 is the same thing as 3450, just 100mhz higher clock)
post #17 of 31
the 8120 and 8150 tade blows with the I5 2500 but your in a diffrent price range the 960 and 955 and the I3 are about the same and in the same price area
post #18 of 31
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Originally Posted by auraofjason View Post

Much better: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5871/intel-core-i5-3470-review-hd-2500-graphics-tested/5
(the 3470 is the same thing as 3450, just 100mhz higher clock)

Maybe this will help? Now of course this doesn't show overclock potential on the FX but the 4170 is already @ 4.3ghz, most people don't push these past 4.5ghz (or 5.0ghz here @ OCN devil.gif)

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=AMD+FX-4170+Quad-Core

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-3450+%40+3.10GHz

Guess I'm being the devils advocate here dropping the Intel build in the AMD section, but it sounds like ROI is more important than which manufacturer. thumb.gif Hopefully I'm being helpful.

Don't forget that my price comparison is taking into account the $47 you considered investing in a different set of ram, which isn't really needed. You could upgrade to a 6100 and still save $$
Edited by LuckySe7ens - 8/29/12 at 4:41pm
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post #19 of 31
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That is a setup that is NOT capable of overclocking (maybe a couple of ref clock bumps but don't expect much). It should be 5-10% better clock/clock than Sandy Bridge or so, and it runs turbo boost @ 3.5ghz.
Should be fine on stock cooling however.
If you are definitely wanting to overclock then AMD is the clear choice @ your budget. But if set it and forget it is the goal than Intel has a MUCH better offering. You end up with a lesser motherboard, but better CPU performance all around.

I'm not too concerned with overclocking, as.. I don't really know how to. Like I said, I could probably learn pretty quickly. I'm really looking for something that will run games like Guild Wars 2, Crysis, and other such games at max. So, if I wished to overclock, then I should go for the AMD and get really the same or kinda close performance to the 3450?
post #20 of 31
if your not going to over clock your beter off with Intel
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