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I recently finished a high end Corsair 800D build on here but after seeing what Caselabs has to offer i am ready to make the switch already!

I have some thoughts in my head about how i would like to go about planning this build out and hopefully with the help of others it will come to life.

Case - TH10

Pedestal - Still undecided

Rad Options -

(Option 1)

XSPC EX480 X2 - 1 on each side roof mounted
XSPC EX360 Crossflow X2 - If i go with a pedestal they will be mounted there

Total Cost - $213 Since i already have a EX360 Crossflow mounted in my corsair 800D

(Option 2)

Alphacool NexXxoS UT60 Full Copper 480mm X2 - 1 on each side roof mounted
Alphacool NexXxoS UT60 Full Copper 360mm - If i go with a pedestal they will be mounted there

Total Cost - $428

Fans - Corsair SP120 High Performance High Static Pressure X8 - I already have 6 mounted on my corsair 800D rads

I am cooling the following -

Intel 3770K - I can be anywhere from 4.5GHZ to 5.0GHz

Evga GTX 670 FTW X2 - Little to no overclocking in the plans for these as they already perform so well

Keep in mind i am aware this is overkill but i like overkill and although 4 rads of this size will cool anything i currently own i can think of it as being future proof.

Questions i have -

Am i really out of my mind for going with 4 rads here and should i just stick with 2 480's and save money not buying a pedestal ?

I am currently using a Swiftech MCP655 Pump With Speed Controller so if i do go with 4 rads should i run another to increase flow pressure ?

I would appreciate any advice or thoughts any 1 has on this future build!
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Nah... Four rads sounds just about right biggrin.gif It really depends on how "overkill" you want to go. Personally, I've been leaning toward having more rad area with low speed fans to keep things quiet wink.gif I'll let the others take on the pump questions.
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Nah... Four rads sounds just about right biggrin.gif It really depends on how "overkill" you want to go. Personally, I've been leaning toward having more rad area with low speed fans to keep things quiet wink.gif I'll let the others take on the pump questions.

LOL well i have a spare Bitspower tube res so if anything i can run 2 loops and mount the tube res internally that way an extra pump makes more sense.
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post #4 of 7
MCP655 is enough for the job.

I'd only go with 2 480 and not 4 rads. Even 1 480 can take you to your max wc cpu overclock. 2 rads will just allow you to make fans a bit more silent. There's a heavy diminishing returns effect once your water temp comes close to air temp.
For instance ambient is 20°C and water temp 40°C. It can take 1 rad to get water temp to 30°C. Next same rad gets it to 25°C. Next same rad to 23°C. Next same rad to 22°C.

Unless you need the space for tons of hard drives, you could take a loot at the STH10 with your hardware. You'd still have tons of place in an STH10 after putting everything in there. The STH10 can even take 140.4 rads.
TH10 is more for X79/SR2/40HDD's/3waterloops/hide-my-kids-in-the-computercase kind of crazy people.
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MCP655 is enough for the job.
I'd only go with 2 480 and not 4 rads. Even 1 480 can take you to your max wc cpu overclock. 2 rads will just allow you to make fans a bit more silent. There's a heavy diminishing returns effect once your water temp comes close to air temp.
For instance ambient is 20°C and water temp 40°C. It can take 1 rad to get water temp to 30°C. Next same rad gets it to 25°C. Next same rad to 23°C. Next same rad to 22°C.
Unless you need the space for tons of hard drives, you could take a loot at the STH10 with your hardware. You'd still have tons of place in an STH10 after putting everything in there. The STH10 can even take 140.4 rads.
TH10 is more for X79/SR2/40HDD's/3waterloops/hide-my-kids-in-the-computercase kind of crazy people.

I appreciate your input as i thought 4 rads was OD for sure but why not go extreme lol

In this case i will prob go with 2 Alphacool UT60 480's and call it a day as they should have a performance edge over the XSPC 480's.

As far as still going with the TH10 i am still undecided as i would love a vast amount of room to work with.
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Intel 520 series 240GB Western Digital Caviar Green 2TB Intel 520 series 120GB Sony DVD Burner 
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Durelene 1/2''x3/4'' Koolance RP-452X2 Daul Bay Reservoir Windows 7 Samsung 27'' 1920X1080 
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This is the planned hardware upgrade for this case -

Res Current - EK Spin res

New Res - Swiftech Maelstrom Dual Bay Basic Standalone Reservoir

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Rads Current - XSPC 360 Crossflow/XSPC 360 Multi port

New Rads - Alphacool NexXxoS UT60 Full Copper 480mm X2

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Tubing - Primochill UV Green 1/2''x3/4'' again with Blue Accent Lighting
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Intel 520 series 240GB Western Digital Caviar Green 2TB Intel 520 series 120GB Sony DVD Burner 
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XSPC Raystorm CPU Water Block XSPC EX360 Crossflow 120mm Low Profile Split Fi... XSPC EX360 Multiport 120mm Low Profile Split Fi... Swiftech MCP655 Special Edition 12 VDC Pump Wit... 
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Durelene 1/2''x3/4'' Koolance RP-452X2 Daul Bay Reservoir Windows 7 Samsung 27'' 1920X1080 
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I've posted this elswhere, but a quick note: any radiator that has G1/4 connections on both side of the radiator will stick up by 3mm higher than the mounting threads due to the G1/4 plug that is needed. That means you will need some washers to be able to mount any of that type of rad to a mounting plate and some kind of weather seal foam tape to fill the gap if you plan on having fans in push/pull. The only exception would be the Aquacomputer AMS radiators that have recessed G1/4 connections exactly for that reason; but they are more restrictive than even some water blocks.
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