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I'm not an OCN hater.
I just know what I like and what I do not like.
I like Windows 8. I *HATE* Metro.
But I will tell you what I really hate ... I really hate it when people go around saying "If you just use Metro for a x amount of time, you will like it."
That is really annoying and silly. Some people hate broccoli. Telling someone if they just eat 50 pounds of it, they will like it. Sorry, it doesn't work like that. They MAY get to the point were, since they are FORCED to eat 50 pounds of it, just shut up and accept the fact that they HAVE to eat the 50 pounds of broccoli (for what ever reason), but they will NOT "like it".
Metro is a stupid shell that Microsoft is putting on an otherwise good operating system (ie Windows 8) and ramming it down peoples throats because PC sales are falling off and they think that the best thing for them (and maybe they are right) is to break into the smartphone and padd markets. Why they think they need to drag the same OS to the desktop and "make a camel" is beyond me (and many others). Apple doesn't do that with iOS and OSX, nor does any other company out there.
But more to the point, what MAY be a good thing for Microsoft (to allow them to lay off people and simplify things when they have a unified platform for XBox, PC's, smart phones, and padds), ISN'T the best thing for the END USER ... especially DESKTOP USERS.

If you don't like Metro on day one...you will never really like metro. You will just get used to it. Though I am sure it will get to the point when they go to change it again people will be up in arms again.

I think it is ugly and really does a number on the look of your background...the full screen only aspect of it is going to be the only thing that is really going to prevent me from using it. Well, that and finding what icon you want in Metro is like finding a needle in a stack of needles. I'll be starting things from the Run command most likely anyway though. Metro would be great if you only had a few programs installed...like on a phone...but when you have 30-40 applications installed the thing becomes quite useless.
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If you don't like Metro on day one...you will never really like metro. You will just get used to it.

I agree with you 100%
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Don't fix somthing that isn't broken that's something that MS has forgotten. I'm fine with them making a new interface but why do they have to erase the old one entirely. People like to use things that they are used to using and works for them companies should have figured that out by now. They are not doing us any favours by not giving us options to use an age old ui thats fast and reliable. THANK you samsung.
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Here's a pro tip...either enjoy what MS is offering; try and vote out the CEO and the rest (unlikely you can get that many shares or that they easily allow voting shares out in the general public's hands); or you find an OS that gives you the choices you want. If the supply isn't meeting the demand then you take the demand somewhere else. But again...most people will just complain and then accept it rather than try and change anything.
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Don't fix somthing that isn't broken that's something that MS has forgotten. I'm fine with them making a new interface but why do they have to erase the old one entirely. People like to use things that they are used to using and works for them companies should have figured that out by now. They are not doing us any favours by not giving us options to use an age old ui thats fast and reliable. THANK you samsung.

So you're one for stagnation and not trying anything new? That's usually what leads to a company dying out.
     
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Don't fix somthing that isn't broken that's something that MS has forgotten. I'm fine with them making a new interface but why do they have to erase the old one entirely. People like to use things that they are used to using and works for them companies should have figured that out by now. They are not doing us any favours by not giving us options to use an age old ui thats fast and reliable. THANK you samsung.

At the same time Microsoft is occasionally getting bad press for having too much bloat in their operating systems to support legacy stuff that most people don't care about. So change or not to change are double edged swords.

I think I like the idea of them just changing ANYTHING...even if in my opinion it is for the worse. It shows a change in the way their developers and project planners are thinking. That is what will lead to the "next best thing" rather than sticking with the "old way that works"
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You're in pretty much the 1% of ocn haters.

I can't help but feel this is a really common misconception. Also, "OCN Haters?" C'mon, everyone's gripes that have been brought up are 100% legit. Just because you don't agree, doesn't make them haters.

The vocal people that hate Windows 8 without trying are the minority. Most of the people here are excited by new technology and ideas, including myself. However, for a portion of the Windows community, it really hinders how we use our computers.

I'm amped for Windows 8 on a tablet, I think that it will be wicked in that implementation...

But they seriously need a desktop and PC version, unless they hope that everything will be touchscreen in the next 4 years. I suppose that could happen on the consumer side, but I can guarantee you that the business side (a large segment of Windows users) that won't happen for quite some time.
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Looks like i may still stick with windows 7.

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I can't help but feel this is a really common misconception. Also, "OCN Haters?" C'mon, everyone's gripes that have been brought up are 100% legit. Just because you don't agree, doesn't make them haters.
The vocal people that hate Windows 8 without trying are the minority. Most of the people here are excited by new technology and ideas, including myself. However, for a portion of the Windows community, it really hinders how we use our computers.
I'm amped for Windows 8 on a tablet, I think that it will be wicked in that implementation...
But they seriously need a desktop and PC version, unless they hope that everything will be touchscreen in the next 4 years. I suppose that could happen on the consumer side, but I can guarantee you that the business side (a large segment of Windows users) that won't happen for quite some time.


how will touch screen work well for games on pc`s ? ohh wait it wont. What about greasy marks, and manufacturers selling overly glossy reflective 1080p screens thats not good for looking into the game world, its only good for angry birds which ironically i played on pc with a mouse and it was better than touch screen laughingsmiley.gif

but i fear it is why MS is using metro. anyone remember about 7 years ago MS came out with the whole giant tablet pc screen as a coffee table with touch screen to order food and make calls etc. ?
this could be a real attack on pc gaming if the operating system becomes pure tablet and touch screen and corporations see true gamers as the ones that use games consoles connected to the TV.

steam on linux is our only hope redface.gif
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I'll be on W7 for as long as my programs and games run good on it. Tried W8 final for about 2 weeks. Could not stand it. Hated every aspect of it really. On a tablet yeah it would be cool. On a desktop no way in hell....
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how will touch screen work well for games on pc`s ? ohh wait it wont. What about greasy marks, and manufacturers selling overly glossy reflective 1080p screens thats not good for looking into the game world, its only good for angry birds which ironically i played on pc with a mouse and it was better than touch screen laughingsmiley.gif
but i fear it is why MS is using metro. anyone remember about 7 years ago MS came out with the whole giant tablet pc screen as a coffee table with touch screen to order food and make calls etc. ?
this could be a real attack on pc gaming if the operating system becomes pure tablet and touch screen and corporations see true gamers as the ones that use games consoles connected to the TV.
steam on linux is our only hope redface.gif

Yeah, good luck with that.

Seriously though, it amazes me the way any idea no matter how implausible, illogical or foolish will be taken directly to heart and as gospel if the right person says it.

Unless almost everyone around the world is unable to run Steam on Windows 8 (99.9% chance for that not to happen), I'll leave it to you to try and explain to the tonnes of studios that release games on Steam why they should go back and port all their games for free just so that comparative minority of people moaning about W8 can play on a platform with almost no market penetration in terms of gaming.

Have fun playing almost nothing but source games tbh.
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