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Originally Posted by twitchyzero View Post

I know I've been hearing this so many times, but does anyone have actual source saying GK104 was actually meant as a midrange?

Where to start....

Tiny die for an nvidia "high end" card.
Small memory bus compared to previous "high end" cards.
Lower power consumption than the competition's high end card.
The fact that it is a gk104 instead of a gk100.

There were also multiple article's in the past saying how the original gtx 660ti (gk104) was changed to the gtx 680 for various reasons including not enough yields or no need to bring out the gk100 when the competition is at mid range (gk104) levels.
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I'm excited for GK110, but i'm not getting swept up in it too much. It's likely going to be a monster chip that's for sure, but will it be a massive leap forward in gaming over the GTX680 or 7970? No, it'll be faster sure....but by how much? Given the costs involved to manufacture this chip, would it be worthwhile releasing it as a gaming GPU? Hell no....but it will be a folders dream that's for sure.
I'm still on the fence as to whether GK110 will see the light of day on the Geforce line. It's an incredibly complex chip and it's vastly expensive to manufacture. Nvidia would be far better off selling them @ $5000+ a pop on Tesla K20 than as a $600-$700 gaming card. It's gaming performance would have to be monumental for it to be cost effective. Sure people shout "binning" but that doesn't mean the GeForce line is the 1st port of call for leaky GK110's.


I'm with you man. I think GK110 will be an incredible chip but all I see right now is it being developed for professional graphics. I'd like to think there's going to be certainly a 2nd generation kepler next year possibly in 2013 with the 7** series cards. If its GK110, I expect it to be replacing the dual chip 690 and instead of having 2 actual chips, nvidia will merge the 790 into a single chip behemoth of a card. Then I could maybe see the GK110 being in the 790 but instead the 780 and smaller cards being some sort of GK108 or some refresh of the GK104 chip. I think a higher bus on the 7** series cards with a better performing GK104 chip would easily make a decent upgrade for the 7** series.

We'll just have to wait and find out.
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HMM, if the release date is late Q4/early Q1 2013 this really make me reconsider whether I should get a second 670 next month to SLI, this might Boost EVGA sell in Q4 as you could buy a 670 in Q4 and Step up(90 days) to a 780.
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computerbase.de is about as unknown as Anandtech rolleyes.gif
Besides, it's only at 8xAA the 6970 beats the 580, which actually isn't that unrealistic considering the ROPs of the 6970 are a lot more effective than the ROPs of the 580 at certain tasks.
And the 6970 did compete with the 570/480, that is quite common knowledge.
Did the thought occur to you that the ROPs of the 6970 and 7970 may be more effective at certain operations than Nvidia's ROPs?
http://www.hardware.fr/articles/857-9/performances-theoriques-pixels.html
And no, hardware.fr is not an unknown site either.

No comparison between those suspicious sites you keep linking to and Anadtech.
HD6970 doesn't come close to GTX 480/570 once overclocked and this is a proven fact.
Fermi scales as well as Tahiti in overclocking. HD6970 scales even worse than GK104 , and that was with voltage unlocked. Even a good overclocking GTX 470 can destroy it at at about half the price.
Overclock GTX 570/480 to around 900+ and see the HD6970 get pwned. I am not even considering DirectX11 games.
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meh il keep my gtx690 till maxwell, i wasnt even going to get the 690 till i got feed up with my hd6990 , i just build a beast of a system with haswell and a gtx890 if ever made
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My wallet is most certainly not ready -_-
^this lol!!!!! hopefully amd has some competitive prices, $500-$600 is just ridiculous for a single gpu, I honestly never spend more than $300. I've had my eyes on the 7950 its around $330 right now but I'll probably wait it out until mid 2013 skip an entire generation, hardware seems to keep getting better while games continue to look the same lol.
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I will have 2 on launch day.... and it may possible be the best day in that week!
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^this lol!!!!! hopefully amd has some competitive prices, $500-$600 is just ridiculous for a single gpu, I honestly never spend more than $300. I've had my eyes on the 7950 its around $330 right now but I'll probably wait it out until mid 2013 skip an entire generation, hardware seems to keep getting better while games continue to look the same lol.

totally agree, i had high hopes for bf3 and crysis2 , don't get me wrong they look good, but i was expecting something to beat the piss outta my system, but no dice mad.gif , i dont think were going to see to many ground breaking games till late 2013 early to mid 2014, which any current gen card can easily last till.
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GPUs are getting faster at the blink of any eye, yet CPUs seem to be going nowhere... Isn't Intel's Haswell only a small improvement?

There's no competition, no reason for Intel to push the envelope!
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There's no competition, no reason for Intel to push the envelope!

There's actually plenty of it, the untrained cannot see it wink.gif
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