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post #411 of 556
Extremely unlikely. Borderline impossible.

GK110 has:
  • 33% more ROPs
  • 33% wider bus
  • 90% increase in shader count
  • double the L1 cache/"configurable shared memory" bandwidth*
  • double the L2 cache size and bandwidth*

If we assume other architecture improvements were made outside of the caches, you're looking at maybe 40% faster on average than the 680. Still, I think it's rather unlikely that the 780 will clock as high, as it's a massive chip. Occasionally you'll see the 780 flex its shader muscle, but there's pretty much no way that it won't be bottlenecked with either bandwidth or with the ROPs.
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Originally Posted by HeadlessKnight View Post

^^ This. Simply because Nvidia started using GTX from geforce 7000 series and higher. There was no GTX in 6000 and lower cards thumb.gif.
Anyway.... Anybody think if the GTX 780 or HD8970 can come close to perform like a GTX 690? I found it very hard but I am wondering what do you guys think?

Decently Overclocked HD8970 @ something like 1250-1300Mhz will be on par with gtx690...
And of course handily defeat it in games that don't scale good in multiGPU. thumb.gif

I'm talking abt 8xAA @ 1600p+ & eyefinity/surround settings... not puny 1080p 4xAA.
and with all bells n whistles turned ON... inlcuding Compute effects.
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Originally Posted by supergamer View Post

Decently Overclocked HD8970 @ something like 1250-1300Mhz will be on par with gtx690...
And of course handily defeat it in games that don't scale good in multiGPU. thumb.gif
I'm talking abt 8xAA @ 1600p+ & eyefinity/surround settings... not puny 1080p 4xAA.
and with all bells n whistles turned ON... inlcuding Compute effects.

That's about as likely as my grandmother snapping out of her Alzheimer's and saying "fooled you!"
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I hope they are as fast as GTX690. If not no point of a upgrade for me.
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Originally Posted by supergamer View Post

Decently Overclocked HD8970 @ something like 1250-1300Mhz will be on par with gtx690...
And of course handily defeat it in games that don't scale good in multiGPU. thumb.gif
I'm talking abt 8xAA @ 1600p+ & eyefinity/surround settings... not puny 1080p 4xAA.
and with all bells n whistles turned ON... inlcuding Compute effects.

Find yourself an <$1200 1600p eyefinity triple monitor set , or heck even a 120hz 1600p monitor at that price first, not any time soon I am afraid. Before those become mildly affordable most gamers will be playing at 1080p 4XAA.

1600p monitor for $2482, all that to make your fancy HD8970 not seem like a waste of money.

Sure it might be "future proof", but when that monitor is selling for $800 your 8970 will be 2-3 generations behind and out of warranty anyway.
Edited by sherlock - 10/8/12 at 4:51pm
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120Hz 2560x**** monitors don't even exist, AFAIK. There's a few of those 60Hz Korean monitors that you can overclock to 120Hz, but that's the closest you can get.
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Originally Posted by TheBirdman74 View Post

^^
Brutuz and to the friend from Finland... That Graph it shows a 920 @ 3.6 GHz and the 2600K @ 4.8 GHz, that's a huge gap right there. headscratch.gif And the Average Difference was 10 - 15 FPS. That is a lot to consider? The i7 920 has a lot of potential under water, I would imagine the gap should be much closer if the 920 (or a 930 as I have right now) were to be O.C'ed? lets say 4.2GHz ~ 4.4GHz?
Should I Overclock? biggrin.gif I'm under water with a proper water cooling setup now, Pretty sure I could do 4.4 ~ 4.5GHz with 1.5 @ vcore, right now I'm doing 4.2GHz @1.42 vcore

That test was also at 5760x1080, not 1080p. That 10-15 FPS would be more like 30-45 FPS @ 1080p thumb.gif
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I would love to put some of you people here with claimed superhuman perception to the test in a double blind study for gpu/fps performance across the spectrum. I'd be willing to wager a majority can't really tell the difference in 5-10fps, much less 10-20 fps when above 60-80fps average. This is assuming there isn't a vsync stutter or anything else like that to really give away an interface lag.
I may run 'only' a 460 with a mild overclock right now, on a 2500k stock (for the moment).. and I turned off ALL of my fps monitors in the games that had them since it was really just something to look at and go... "oh, that's what it's running... ok". FPS drop is noticeable when the game slows, actions feel delayed or slurred, etc... claiming to be able to see individual frame differences at 120+fps is the kind of claim that makes you raise an eyebrow, follow by a thoughtful nod-and-smile.
Yeah, we're all here for performance, great... we all WANT the highest FPS possible, mostly for numbers sake and knowing we have great hardware... being able to tell the difference between being in the top 1% and the top 20% of performers would be likely to show there is no perceivable difference. Even with high end, multi monitor displays, I don't buy for a second you would notice a 5-10% fps drop while still maintaining a net 100+ fps across the board. Being able to focus on the action on 2-3 monitors is enough. I have been to several LAN events with these high end computers set up and on display as well... the guys running them more or less agreed with me, but were all in the mindset of, "Who cares... it's beast, it's mine... it's all good."

I personally have high expectations for he 780 when it releases.. but one thing nagging me is why a 512 bus isn't more prevalent? Everyone harps on how much better the 382 bus is over the 256... why not go for more? Are we waiting on more widespread adoption for PCI 3.0 ... or maybe even PCI 4.0 in 2014/15?
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I would love to put some of you people here with claimed superhuman perception to the test in a double blind study for gpu/fps performance across the spectrum. I'd be willing to wager a majority can't really tell the difference in 5-10fps, much less 10-20 fps when above 60-80fps average. This is assuming there isn't a vsync stutter or anything else like that to really give away an interface lag.
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I personally have high expectations for he 780 when it releases.. but one thing nagging me is why a 512 bus isn't more prevalent? Everyone harps on how much better the 382 bus is over the 256... why not go for more? Are we waiting on more widespread adoption for PCI 3.0 ... or maybe even PCI 4.0 in 2014/15?

cause nvidia tried it once and failed measurably smile.gif
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cause nvidia tried it once and failed measurably smile.gif

Care to cite sources for your info? The easiest way to back up a statement is with some evidence to support your claim. Charts can be found to be skewed either way to support an arguement, as we've already seen here, but at least they're providing something.
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