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Finally decided to build a HTPC in a ISK-110 case. I got a AsRock Q1900-ITX running in this case since I had 4gb of spare laptop ram sitting around. So far I'm very pleased with what this motherboard can do for being fanless.

Agreed, these are awesome mobo's for a fanless build, have the DC version of the Q1900(in a Morex 557 box) and a Q2900 version in another box.
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Have any of you used an Intel Avoton system? It's for low-power embedded systems. Four or eight Silvermont cores (I think it's two quad-core dies, but there's no L3 or extra memory controllers to indicate anything), lots of storage potential, passive, and mini ITX. I want a C2758 for BOINC and lulz. thumb.gif
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If I wanted to build a NAS/Transcoding system that's the first chip I would look into. Unfortunately they are crazy expensive and almost not worth it for me (not enough simultaneous streams to warrant that many cores).
     
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Could always get a cheap FX-8150! tongue.gif

Although if you do need cores, look into Westmere Xeons. Six cores, hyperthreading, and about $150 for a surprisingly high-end board and CPU. X5650 is a good one.
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Originally Posted by iFreilicht View Post

What are the volume rules on builds with power bricks? Do we count the volume of those too? Because just putting the PSU, one of the largest parts in a SFF build, outside the case and not counting it anymore feels very cheaty to me.

I said that many times, and I guess you're all sick of hearing it, but I would really like to know what the official rules in this club are. wink.gif

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Originally Posted by CynicalUnicorn View Post

Power brick is only part of the PSU. PSUs that need a brick have that, an AC-DC transformer to turn wall power into DC power, and a device to step this down into +12V, +5V, +3.3V, and -12V.

Not entirely sure how standard ATX PSUs work. They might have several different AC-DC transformers for each voltage, or they might have just one and a number of DC-DC transformers to step it down.


I'd count it personally, but it depends. You can technically boot some system off a 30W wall wart, but it might need a 160W brick to actually run. It's a bit complicated.

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Originally Posted by void View Post

I assume we count the power brick seems fair, NFS suggested external volume ignoring small case feet.

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Originally Posted by Jimbags View Post

It should be the internal volume because thats all thats usable in a case. But if external components are added they should be added to the total also ie external rads, fans , psu

I recon we should measure the outer volume excluding case feet as void said. Handles and Power bricks shouldn't count either. The advantage of an external power brick is you can have more than 1 at different locations so no need to carry it around.
As for internal dimensions, it would be very hard to measure for some cases.
External radiators or fans or antennas are not part of the actual case so I don't think it should count.

I think we should just keep it simple with just using external dimensions.
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post #1206 of 2817
What about cases that require their feet for acceptable cooling? They technically don't need them to boot, but will not function properly without them.

Good point on external power bricks, though, I like that explanation.
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I know there are those who will disagree with me, but I'll put my thoughts out here.

When I read the volume numbers on the front of the thread, I usually try to picture that volume on my desk. And to me, that is the most important thing; how much space does it take up on my desk? To me, I wouldn't take into account things like power bricks, because they will be on the floor, tucked away, and I will never notice it!

Of course, this is slightly less applicable if you put your sff system on the floor!thumb.gif
post #1208 of 2817
So my power supply decided to die on me today... which puts a spotlight on the one issue with this case I was unsure about all along: the power supply.

As it sits right now, my only option is to go through the RMA process, since you apparently can't buy the PSU separately from the case anymore. No idea how long that would take, and this box isn't just for games... it's also for watching movies, Netflix, browsing... basically anything my ancient Thinkpad can't do. (I don't think I have any screens that still support VGA outputs). Also, they'd probably have me send the entire case in, and I don't have a good place to store the internals.

Another option is to switch over to an SFF case that can use a regular PSU... but I kinda bought these components specifically for the Hadron and I'm not sure all of them will fit... especially the Noctua NH-C14.

A third option would be to mod the Hadron so it can fit an SFX power supply, but that sounds rather... involved... not sure how feasible it'd be either.

Any advice from you SFF gurus?
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post #1209 of 2817
There are a lot of options, it all depends how small you want/need to go.

You could buy a regular ATX power supply and use a lot of the cases on the first page. The thing that limits you most is your PSU lenght.

You could also replace that PSU with a FSP U1 unit, like these:

http://www.amazon.com/FSP-Supply-80PLUS-BRONZE-FSP600-801UK/dp/B0057UBNEU/ref=pd_sim_sbs_pc_2

http://www.amazon.com/FSP-Supply-80PLUS-Bronze-FSP700-801UK/dp/B009VTLHXK/ref=pd_sim_sbs_pc_1
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Any other 1U you'll find will be louder by quite a bit. The EVGA chose to get it as quiet as possible without compromising thermals. Most other 1Us are designed for server racks and care about reliability above all else. You could get a 1U and mod it by either adding in new 40mm fans that are quieter (and run the system hotter) or you could add a larger 80 or 120mm fan to the side and cut a hole in the side of the new PSU. You'd void the warranty but it would keep it quieter.

I'd talk to EVGA about just RMAing the PSU. They are good guys and shouldn't be too strict on that.
     
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