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Hello fellows,
I have been waiting to pull the trigger on this thing for 6 months and now I am less than 2 weeks away wheee.gif
So now that i am in my final hour i was hoping to get some last minute opinions to see what you guys think.

I will be doing some video editing and photoshop stuff but only as a new hobbyist. Could become more if i don't suck at it lol.
I am a Cyber Security student so i will be running many VMs, doing lots of data encryption / decryption, large file compression. Also i will be Folding, and of course gaming smile.gif

I will be watercooling as soon as i can replenish my resources as well as running SLI someday, that is why i opted for the 750 watt PSU.

I already have

a pos keyboard that i intend on replacing asap
a 22" 1680 x 1050 monitor that will also be replaced ASAP
and an optical drive that will not be replaced.


Coming Soon

COOLER MASTER RC-692A-KKN5
ASRock Z77 Extreme4
EVGA 02G-P4-2678-KR GeForce GTX 670 FTW
Rosewill HIVE Series HIVE-750 750W
Intel Core i7-3770K
SAMSUNG 830 Series MZ-7PC128B/WW 2.5" 128GB
G.SKILL Sniper Gaming Series 16GB (2 x 8GB)
Seagate Barracuda ST2000DM001 2TB
Logitech G500
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO


Current total including TIM
$1452

(all leftover funds will go toward a XSPC RASA 750 RS240 Kit)

So what do yall think?
Could I do better?
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It is REALLY hard to say what you need because we don't really know what type of software you are going to be running or how that software would react to hyper threading or CPU cores.

So on one hand you might be better off with a i7 3930K with 6 cores and 12 threads, on the other hand the software might respond better to higher clock frequency so you would need an i5 3570K with a pretty high overclock.

Is there any way that you could get a list of the software you will be using?
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I like your build. The water cooling equipment is nice, i have the pump/res and the cpu block and i like them. When you
Get the case all built measure and see if you can fit that radiator. I had to get a slim rad in order to mount fans on it the way i wanted.
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I think it looks really good. I would change a few things, but this might just be because of my preferences.

1. I don't really like that power supply. I lean towards something made from Seasonic...they make other brands that don't carry the Seasonic label. In fact, I would go as far to say don't buy that power supply, but I'm not an expert..just opinion.

2. I wouldn't want to spend 50+ dollars on a mouse..do you need that particular one for anything? I have a Gigabyte M6800..$16..works great.

3. With the money saved from the cheaper mouse you could get a better power supply or even a 4gb 670 from EVGA...which I would recommend if you are going to run with these components through the first several years of the next console generation....also, someday the higher resolution monitors are going to start looking really good to you and you'll be glad you have the extra 2gb. (both of these points are mearly speculation on my part)

4. I also prefer the HAF 922 case, but that is just preference. From looking at the pictures on Newegg you would think it isn't painted on the inside, but it is...I purchased one about 2 months ago and it is awesome and looks great....lots and lots of room for cable management, which is something I struggled with.

Really, those are just things that I would (did) do when I puchased my stuff...but that is just me...

love the motherboard and the hyper 212 evo...they work great for me.
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looks like youve been doing your homework on this build. As a base build it is very solid, but like Tjj226 said without more info we can't advise you either way. If you will be doing some heavy video rendering, or massive code compiling, a 3930K may not be a bad idea. If all this will be is a gaming rig and browser then the 3770K is overkill and a 3570K would suffice while saving you some cash. Only thing I have to really comment on is the case. It is a nice case, but at that price point I would consider a full sized tower. It will make your future water cooling endeavor much easier, and I just prefer working in full cases since it makes wire management so much easier.

edit @ mbalmer - I feel the same way about the PSU but a lot of people say the HIVE series is actually very good. If it was just a normal rosewill PSU I would have said change it but it is a HIVE and is modular so it isn't a bad choice.

And I would suggest sticking with that mouse. Yes you can get by with a cheap mouse, but once you start gaming with one it is so hard to go back. Same with a mech keyboard. And the g500 is a very good choice, but if you have some extra cash consider the Mionix 3200 or 5000. I own the 5000 and between the pinky rest, adjustable DPI on the fly, macro buttons, and weights it is absolutely awesome
Edited by xRehab - 8/31/12 at 9:59am
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Originally Posted by Tjj226 Angel View Post

It is REALLY hard to say what you need because we don't really know what type of software you are going to be running or how that software would react to hyper threading or CPU cores.
So on one hand you might be better off with a i7 3930K with 6 cores and 12 threads, on the other hand the software might respond better to higher clock frequency so you would need an i5 3570K with a pretty high overclock.
Is there any way that you could get a list of the software you will be using?

Encase
Access Data's Forensic Tool Kit (FTK)
Wireshark
The Sluth Kit (TSK)
VMWare Workstation (running at least 6 or more VMs at the same time)
DVDFab
+ many more

I think DVDFab, FTK and the VMs are my primary CPU hogs. Mainly the VMs because i need to run so many at once. I am sure the 3930K would do me better than the 3770k but could I go with that platform and stay with in my $1500 budget without compromising the quality of my other components? Maybe i should look into this more. I guess i figured since i am cutting the budget so close already that an extra $230 on the CPU would be absolutly impossible.

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Originally Posted by Mbalmer View Post

I think it looks really good. I would change a few things, but this might just be because of my preferences.
1. I don't really like that power supply. I lean towards something made from Seasonic...they make other brands that don't carry the Seasonic label. In fact, I would go as far to say don't buy that power supply, but I'm not an expert..just opinion.
2. I wouldn't want to spend 50+ dollars on a mouse..do you need that particular one for anything? I have a Gigabyte M6800..$16..works great.
3. With the money saved from the cheaper mouse you could get a better power supply or even a 4gb 670 from EVGA...which I would recommend if you are going to run with these components through the first several years of the next console generation....also, someday the higher resolution monitors are going to start looking really good to you and you'll be glad you have the extra 2gb. (both of these points are mearly speculation on my part)
4. I also prefer the HAF 922 case, but that is just preference. From looking at the pictures on Newegg you would think it isn't painted on the inside, but it is...I purchased one about 2 months ago and it is awesome and looks great....lots and lots of room for cable management, which is something I struggled with.
Really, those are just things that I would (did) do when I puchased my stuff...but that is just me...
love the motherboard and the hyper 212 evo...they work great for me.


1. I would like the seasonic too but i read a lot of good things about the HIVE and it is SOOO much cheaper lol. I figured i would roll some dice and see what happens.

2. I have a cheap mouse right now and my hands get all crampy. I held the G500 for like a second and loved it. I think it may be a necessity.

3. I was really debating between the FTW and the 4GB for quite some time, i landed on the FTW because it has the higer quality components, costs $50 less and i will only be sporting 1080p for the next few years so i figured the extra 2GB would rarly be used and if i did run out of VRAM i could kick down my MSAA and the like to smooth out the game play. (I have never actully played a game on high settings or with more than 30 FPS so i really don't know anything lol)

4. I would like a full tower, I was originally looking at the switch 810 but my funding got cut in half sad-smiley-002.gif I like the cable mgmt wtih grommets and in forensics we do a lot of disk imaging which the top mounted xternal hot swap on the 690 ii would be great for plus it fits 2 240 mm rads for under $100.
Perhaps i should shop more and see if i can find a similar full tower around the same price as i would love the extra room.

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Originally Posted by xRehab View Post

looks like youve been doing your homework on this build. As a base build it is very solid, but like Tjj226 said without more info we can't advise you either way. If you will be doing some heavy video rendering, or massive code compiling, a 3930K may not be a bad idea. If all this will be is a gaming rig and browser then the 3770K is overkill and a 3570K would suffice while saving you some cash. Only thing I have to really comment on is the case. It is a nice case, but at that price point I would consider a full sized tower. It will make your future water cooling endeavor much easier, and I just prefer working in full cases since it makes wire management so much easier.
edit @ mbalmer - I feel the same way about the PSU but a lot of people say the HIVE series is actually very good. If it was just a normal rosewill PSU I would have said change it but it is a HIVE and is modular so it isn't a bad choice.
And I would suggest sticking with that mouse. Yes you can get by with a cheap mouse, but once you start gaming with one it is so hard to go back. Same with a mech keyboard. And the g500 is a very good choice, but if you have some extra cash consider the Mionix 3200 or 5000. I own the 5000 and between the pinky rest, adjustable DPI on the fly, macro buttons, and weights it is absolutely awesome

I agree about the normal Rosewill PSUs but i read so much good stuff about the HIVE i figured i just had to take the risk. The price tag just looks soo good smile.gif
I am SURE i would rather have the 3930k but do you think i could go that route and stay within budget?




Thanks for all the responses, +Rep for you all
Edited by sda1 - 8/31/12 at 11:52am
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I think everything will work out just fine for you with what you have selected...I just wanted to mention a few suggestions.

Enjoy you system...you are going to love the 670.
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If you're set on 750W though, I would definitely do some research about the PSU. Jonnyguru.com is probably the best most comprehensive site to go to for PSU reviews. The PSU is the most important component in your system. I would NOT roll any sort of dice, if I were you. Not saying that the hive is bad, but just do a lot of research.

Don't bother with G.skill sniper. The best memory out there is currently the samsung 30 nm memory. These things are the catleaps of memory. Save yourself ~$10 and have faster memory in the process.
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